I'd like to get some advice form an affiliate that is possibly making serious revenue. When you guys launch a campaign do you start profiting right off the bat or what? The reason I ask for is because I see several affiliate marketers promoting various products and when I try to promote the same products I have an EXTREMELY high click cost and never profit on any offers. I have a GREAT QS across the board I just don't understand how these other guys are making money. I have tested various landing pages and etc.
You probably won't get anything really specific here tdd but maybe someone will share. I think you will find that a lot of people test on a small scale for a few days to see if it has any chance and then scale it.
I lose money when testing. I spend in a whole day on testing what most people make in a week. If your making money, then you have the "room" to test. If you don't have that luxury, then you have to make baby steps to testing out a product. I'm mostly speaking PPC here. But personally I would just stick to lower competition offers and stay around this range .05-.25 if you can't afford the swings. then when you have the funds, you can test higher and higher. You "Must" Stay in your Comfort Zone when testing, scared money is lost money. The Bid High and get a good QS doesn't always have a huge impact, and usually they say to only spend $20-$25 a day, then slowly lower your bids, and you campaign should be ready in about a week. I like to improvise a little and get this going in 2-3 days. Finally I had the same problem a few weeks ago. I was like "How the "F" do these people make money at these costs per click"(check my posts to see my thread). It's usually real simple, if it's not making money after a few days, and a handful of LPS/Ads, then gleefully move on and maybe you can try again later. But make sure you give it a fair chance, Yesterday I tried the same offer from a different network, and now the campaign is profiting. All your campaigns aren't going to be winners. Stay in your comfort zone and don't worry about the ones that don't work. "I have not failed, I've found 10000 Ways that won't work. -Thomas Edison V2tE
Yea, but when you see other affiliates promoting the same offer you know there is money in that niche .
Do your best to get in on products that are just launching or are still newer. Perhaps you're a touch behind the wave, or could be doing better keyword searches, negative searches, timing/geo-targeting, site targeting, the way you write your ads... could be a lot of things but the fact that you're testing is a good start. Not sure what networks you're with or what you promote but if I were ppc'ing again I would look for high paying new launches and build keys/ads/landers that are proven... Also not sure what niche you are in but try your hand at different ones if you're only sticking to one. Also, if you have a bit more time than money - once you prove a campaign and it's profitable for a few days, utilize some free methods and keep building your backlinks to your landers/domains from relative content and high pr sites (naturally so it doesn't look fake). You'd be surprised what a little bum marketing can do to your campaign and adspend/views on marketing. Cheers, N.
there is a lot that the SA's aren't telling you. 1st of all, they are marketing to a list of 200,000 subscribers, plus they JV with other SA's and use their lists, too the rest is here: http://www.myincomestory.com/landing
In general, the difference between success and failure in PPC is ability to target. Successful superaffiliates are very good at targeting specific offers to specific keywords / specific audiences. For example a book "How to make money as a Superaffiilate" may not convert on keywords "money" or "affiliate" or "superaffiliate" but may convert on 'superaffiliate commissions". So the key is finding the exact keyword/offer combinations that lead to profit. I hope this example makes sense. Here is another: (note these are not real facts - I don't know which of these keywords may be profitable or not - just using it as an example). Affiliate Offer: Credit Reporting Services Keywords: credit report, bad credit, free credit report, credit file, credit reporting, credit score, free credit score, credit score bad credit Keywords that result in profit: credit score, credit score bad credit All other keywords on the list above may lead to losses because: poor conversions, high CPC rates, bad page rank that leads to higher CPC for your ads or bad ad copy leading to higher CPC on google.
This is where the s*** hits the fan - not all super affiliates really are. I have read so many reports and such of this guy or that making $800,000 in 10 months off their blogs or websites and of some even earning more. Sounds great, huh? But the reality that they never seem to tell you (probably because they want you to buy their book or cd's, etc...) is that they spent almost all of it advertising on Google, Yahoo and MSN. They also spent even more to hire writers, social black hat marketers, etc... to promote and build up their website. Many of these super affiliates are lucky to have actually made a little or even broken even in the end. That's the truth.
Actually you're wrong. 100% wrong. I know MOST (popular) super affiliates, many personally, and the ones that I have talked to have made a heck of a lot more than you might think or are saying they make. Not to pick just on you... Many of the posts I read here are also completely wrong. (its4real4u For example) The honest truth is that super affiliates are just like normal affiliates except they work hard on campaigns and get them to a profitable state by using both experience and optimization. Many of my campaigns need a load of tweaking before they are profitable. That's why it's actually work... not some secret formula that people might think...
Jonathan, I agree... BTW it's Tyler DeWitt... Why your over here if you don't mind me asking you a question does your PPC cost generally drop dramatically after continuous spending and carrying a GREAT qs score?
It really depends on the competition. You're not going to get a $15 dollar keyword for $8 bucks or anything but you'll get small discounts over time, yes.
Jon, that's what I was wondering becuase I'm trying to figure out how these other affiliate sites are always showing up in the top 3 sponsored listing. One of them has been up there for the last 5-6 months, so I know there is money in this one market I'm trying to get going. I"m thinking over time they have moved up there from just spending so much and holding a great QS. I have a GREAT QS across the board for the same keywords as what this other guy is bidding on, but I can't even profit being in positions 5-8 and hes always in the top 3. Only thing I can think is that he's getting cheap clicks due to history or he's getting 4-5 conversions per 100 clicks. I tried creating a landing page similar to his for testing purposes, but it still was not converting that high.
Dude, I still don't think you get it! I make 20k+ a month, But that is no way near Vene, Volk or NcMedia, but here you have 3 super marketers helping you out and even after that you still don't get it! Yes A good QS, and more importantly a good CTR will get you cheaper clicks, but most of the time you won't see a significant drop, especially in a high competition niche. There are many reason why competitors seem untouchable at a niche 1. BackEnd Sales- Competitors using their mailing list to make more money on the backend etc. 2. There promoting their own product. 3. Better LP/Ad. 4. Their affiliate network has significantly raised their commission or they have a white label, Like Veneficuz said, sometimes it could just be an affiliate network scrubbing your leads or maybe your way over your head, and you should move on. It is very-very important to stay in your comfort zone, something I learned the hard way. Volk said tweak,tweak,tweak. But your still trying to guess why you can't touch a niche, I seriously think you still wan't a magic formula, or maybe one of them to login to your PPC account and make some magic happen. Yeah I guarantee you let Vene or Volk into one of your accounts and they'll get it done, but probably the same way they do all their other accounts: Elbow Grease: Your on the right track just by being here, just discern good advice, and GL. PPCB
Just bscause am not making money does not mean others are not. keep trying and you will get there. it works
I have done affiliate marketing myself and yes you can see results right off the bat depending on your marketing method. I personally combined affiliate marketing with Craigslist and earned on average between $800 - $1000 per week promoting a work at home product. I never made no 20k a month or anything but it was easy money for posting maybe 200 - 300 ads per day. Advertise for free and you can see results immediately, at least I did.
Super Affiliates make money 2 ways by sharing how they make money. Most of them don't give out the offers they are promoting because it makes the competition harder for them.