Submitting to wrong/inappropiate categories

Discussion in 'Directories' started by terryuk, Apr 19, 2007.

  1. #1
    Do you get many submissions from websites that submit their website to irrelevant categories just because the PR? I'm finding more and more people are doing this.. i'm having a complete clear out (not literally) although if a website doesn't fit in a category i'm making a category for it regardless of PR on the new category page... as they'd probably benefit from this in the future with less listings on the specific category...?

    Have you ever come across this? :mad:
     
    terryuk, Apr 19, 2007 IP
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  2. wwws

    wwws Notable Member

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    #2
    For my free direcories I get 85% of them submitted in the wrong category.On paid, since's I don't get alot I can move them.

    Some will do that to get a better position, but if you need to move them, go for it.
     
    wwws, Apr 19, 2007 IP
  3. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    Yeah i admit, free directories are harder to keep a tab of as the amount of submissions you recieve.. but paid it is alot easier to keep tabs on links etc.
     
    terryuk, Apr 19, 2007 IP
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    banless Peon

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    I get some of these from time to time, but I know that some do it for pr reasons. Others like myself might do it because it provides more visiblity and because there may not be as many links on that page. I think this rule mainly applies to standard listings. The purpose of the featured listings to allow a little more flexabiltiy, at least I thought so.
     
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  5. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    Don't worry, i wasn't pushing this thread onto you... but i seem to get more and more of them and i was wondering if anyone else does and what they do to resolve it?

    I know that ewebpages doesn't even get notifcation of links submitted in top categories, which i admit isn't a bad thing although i think it only applies to regular links. But if i were to allow every featured website to go on the top level category then you might aswell change the category title to 'Web Directories'. Do you know what i mean?
     
    terryuk, Apr 19, 2007 IP
  6. Fastian

    Fastian Peon

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    #6
    Was getting a lot of such submissions with my other directory (Free one) when I posted it here. But after few days, things are back to normal :)

    Right now I think it is out of some spammy list of sites so not much of problems.

    With Paid one, so far no such issue :)
     
    Fastian, Apr 19, 2007 IP
  7. Makubwa

    Makubwa Active Member

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    What annoys me a load is people submitting non - related links. I have a fishing directory and the amount of links I get for webmaster services, health websites, proxy sites; they must know they won't get approved!
     
    Makubwa, Apr 19, 2007 IP
  8. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    Lol yeah, but some people close their eyes and keep clicking the mouse untill it goes to 0 :p
     
    terryuk, Apr 19, 2007 IP
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    I understand, some directories allow this some do not. I have a listing here which allows it, never hurts to try.
     
    banless, Apr 19, 2007 IP
  10. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #10
    Let me make an observation from the submitter's side — let's say, hypothetically a photography site webmaster.

    Too often the submitter will find something like this:
    • "Arts" category, with PR4
    • "Photography" sub-category with PR0
    • So the webmaster submits his site to the "Arts" category, to get the PR4 benefit.

    This type of thing can happen anywhere up and down the directory's hierarchy of categories and sub-category. Case in point: I recently bought two paid submissions and placed them in appropriate sub-categories. The good PR at those sub-categories was my main reason for submitting. Well, the directory owners accepted the paid submissions, but placed them lower in the sub-category structure, with PR0. I appealed one and got a refund. I just got weary and let the other one ride, despite my disappointment.
     
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    terryuk Notable Member

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    Yeah i definatley understand where your coming from as a webmaster myself, so it does come to a time when i have to submit websites aswell.. but in LinksJuice.com (the directory i'm talking about) practically all categories are PR5 anyways.. so i wouldn't have thought they'd be much disappointment.. but who know's :)
     
    terryuk, Apr 19, 2007 IP
  12. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    It happens to biz-giant Directory Daily as i offer free inclusion and i would guess more then half pull this stunt.
    They only target PR instead of going deep into the directory 3-4 levels to thier proper catagories.

    thx
    malcolm
     
    malcolm1, Apr 19, 2007 IP
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    CReed Prominent Member

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    #13
    We had submissions/payments to top level categories disabled due to the amount of spam we were receiving; all of the top level submissions are auto-deleted and we receive no notification of those submissions. No muss, no fuss. :)

    All of our top level categories are reserved for Premium Featured Listings as defined in our guidelines.

    Not submitting to a category because the visible toolbar PageRank is zero is a relatively poor excuse; as webmasters many of us are aware that the toolbar data is out of date and doesn't reflect any current value (if that is a concern to those submitting).

    The PR4 category you're trying to submit to may actually be a PR1, but you'd never know until the toolbar data is exported months later. My preference is topical relevance and being listed amongst related, quality web sites for a couple of reasons - the citation value and the possiblility of targeted visitors.

    Misplaced submissions is common due to this, but we have always reserved the right to reclassify/re-categorized and edit listings. Our goal is to provide a quality and relevant index. You may have an occasional unhappy submitter, but that just goes with the niche you're in.
     
    CReed, Apr 19, 2007 IP
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    Same here Creed. Ditto. :)
     
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    no fuss, no muss. now that's what i'm talking about CReed ;)
     
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    Antonio Well-Known Member

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    #16
    If paid submission, moving to right category.

    If free submission, deleting without review. ;)
     
    Antonio, Apr 19, 2007 IP
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    I also receive such submissions...

    Why do paid directories submit to main "web directories " section ? Only for better PR
     
    MeetHere, Apr 20, 2007 IP
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    I get a lot of links submitted in the wrong category, or unrelated to the directory topic. I think some people just gain pleasure from shooting themselves in the foot.
     
    Obelia, Apr 20, 2007 IP
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    i get a lot of these, specially since its a free directory , for some of them i setup the right section ,some i just delete . annoyance , annoyance indeed.
     
    procrastinator, Apr 20, 2007 IP
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    We deal with the problem of people submitting to irrelevant categories by:
    • Disabling submission to the high level categories
    • If it was free and done by a submission company they are added to our ever growing black list of submission companies
    • Moving paid submissions to the correct category
    • Deleting free submissions without review, sorry we simply get too many a day to have the time to move each one
    I would rather upset a few webmasters and keep the directory as organised and the categories as on topic as possible than let it degenerate into a free for all mess.

    If the directory is properly organised then visitors will come because it is a useful resource for them, in turn these visitors may flow through to the listed sites, so really being strict about organisation is in the webmasters best interests.

    The steady stream of real estate and other irrelevant sites to artweblinks.com can be somewhat annoying and are simply deleted without notification.
     
    tolra, Apr 20, 2007 IP