Submit To Paid Directories, What are the main benefits?

Discussion in 'Directories' started by Franck S, Jan 23, 2007.

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    I am submitting my site to free directories with high PR. While I do know all the benefits of submission directory.

    I wonder if submiting in a PR 5 free directory will have any difference in term of SEO and traffic than submitting to paid directories?

    For example submitting to alive directory against another free directory with same PR. What are the main benefits?
     
    Franck S, Jan 23, 2007 IP
  2. Rod_Purnell

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    I don't believe that PR is the bottom line for any directory. A good PR is a plus, but the real difference is in how much and how well a directory is promoted by it's owner. Also you have to look at what kind of sites are being accepted into the directory. There are directories, and then there are well promoted and maintained directories. Which one would you prefer to be listed in? That should be the question. :)
     
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    mistermix Active Member

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    Just because a directory charges for submissions does not automatically make it a better directory to submit to.

    What you will find though is that paid directories offer something of value, something that justifies the fee. This could be a wide range of things.

    To get a directory to PR5+ takes alot of time and money so a free PR5+ directory is very rare. Free directories generally have alot more submissions than paid, so your link may appear on a page that has zero toolbar pagerank or maybe isn't even indexed by search engines.

    Paid directories aim to place your link on a page that has actual pagerank :)
     
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    Thank you for your answer. So one of my best reasons should be that the site is on an internal page rank of 5. It makes sense.
     
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    mistermix Active Member

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    Internal pages might be PR2, PR3, PR4 etc. You just need to decide if the price is worth it.

    Also take a look at the directory design, the quality of its content and how many pages index in google.
     
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    Besides promotion, you also have directory integrity.
     
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    Alistair Active Member

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    I think some of thre free directories get so many submissions you could be waiting ages to get submitted.
    Or It might be never.
    I know of one of the leading directories and the owner had thousands of pending links as he is to busy.
     
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    I ran a free PR5 for a while. I got soooo many garbage submissions, 100+ a day, that I went to paid. The directory is now PR6 and I still get a ton of junk submitted everyday ;).

    Chris...
     
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    It makes sense that a paid directory has much less sites submitted (because you have to pay) so the submitted sites receive a higher percentrage of the PR of the internal page
     
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    A qualified view from an owner of a

    well promoted and maintained directory

    We support these points of view :)
     
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    There is only one reason imo for the link, you dont get any promotion or traffic from ANY directory ive ever submitted to. Yahoo gives some traffic
    but botw (even with $60/month sponsorship), joeant, uncoverthenet, site-sift, alive etc send little traffic. What would be good is a highly promoted directory on sites where they can get normal users, rather than highly promoted directories which only buy links on webmaster sites thus nearly all there visitors are webmasters and no benefit to you.
     
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    Internal pages, marketing efforts, quality of backlinks, number of links in the category i am planning to submit are important for me.
     
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    To be perfectly honest i don't think (especially in the case of free general directories) they are that good for traffic - PR tends to be the main consideration - as mentioned by mistermix good PR of internal pages is really something to consider (most directories tend to just have a index page PR and occasionally a PR on the next level down).

    If your looking for traffic i'd look at general directories such as Alive and Aviva (which are also good for a PR back link), i'd also broaden your submissions to niche directories as these are likely to bring you much better targetted traffic than a general directory!

    At the end of the day unless your a big popular general directory the majority of traffic will come from bots and submissions - why search 1 of thousands of general directories when you can just get better results from search engines?

    In regards to the Alive Directory you also need to remember as already mentioned that there are very few directories which have a good PR like Alive, in addition Alive is likely to have all its pages very well indexed which is an added bonus - you don't want to page for a link thats a good few levels down, has no PR and hasn't possibly been indexed! If you can afford a sponosored listings try and get within 1 or 2 clicks of the index page.

    At the end of the day i'd say be very selective - only go with the paid submissions where the site screams quality!
     
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    Thank you for putting the light on this.

    This is what I will do now, just tell me if there is a mistake in my plan:

    1) I will concentrate on paid directory like alive, seven seek (I prefer directories without monthly fee)
    2) I will rather choose DP member directories since they are heavily promoted.

    Question: Should I continue to bother with FREE directories submissions?


    P.S: I am also looking for a free directory script. I've seen sift sift and PHp free script
     
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    Increasing the number of backlinks is never a bad thing - so i'd select a few popular paid directories to suit your needs (and your budget) this will hopefully provide a good few PR paged backlinks (perhaps even think about getting a sitewide or two on a high PR ranked site) and then continue to build on your free directory backlinks. Even if a backlink has a PR0 its still going to help you increase your PR in the long run - also who knows that free submission directory might one day become paid with a really good PR :)
     
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    Most certainly free submissions should be a part of your over all strategy. Over time many free directories will become better known and what may now be a link of little value could become something of value as long as it is in a spot relevant to your site.

    Investigate every avenue when it comes to your sites visibility.
     
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    Hi there dude,
    Its good to promote through free directories... But too many FFA link ( Free for all ) Directories dont help much in google. I am also having two Directories in my signature if you wish you can do the submission. Also talking about free directory .. I'd say you better go with phpLD coz its an free script and it has a lot of free goodies all around. ( I am not affiliated with phpLD). Its easy on SEO thing and good for beginners. Plus its you wish you can upgrade to the paid version for a fee.
     
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    Guys! PR is out , alexa is in , and i mean that there are so many directories out there with PR7 - but alexa of 1000,000 so the PR is not helping you getting traffic , Link popularity from a certain page with a high pr for at least one year can help another certain page maintain his PR but traffic is something different

    1234directory.com - Organize your web
     
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    Directories aren't for traffic, especially general directories.

    I have a site listed in the Yahoo directory. I was never expecting any traffic and I didn't get any traffic.

    If a directory has 25,000 links in, how many uniques a day does it need to send traffic to the sites listed?
     
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    I don't think Alexa is an viable indicator. Maybe in the future...

    I was digging in the threads and I've found a nice list on the aviva directory.

    I'd go for alive, sevenseek and goguides since they are the one I see the most. I will check the PR for the category I am targeting.

    And do you advise me Site Sift? I will target one good paid directory per month from now.

    According to your experience, what would be the top 3 in that selected list (from AVIVA directory):

    Page Strength 7.5
    http://www.avivadirectory.com/ ($34.95 / $74.95)
    http://www.joeant.com/ ($39.99)
    http://directory.v7n.com ($49.95) (Directory subdomain has page strength of 6)

    Page Strength 7
    http://www.2yi.net/ ($9.95 / $29.95 per year)
    http://www.alivedirectory.com/ ($34.95 / $74.95)
    http://www.relmaxtop.com/ ($20 per month)
    http://www.sevenseek.com/ ($40 / $99.95)

    Page Strength 6.5
    http://www.chiff.com/ ($59.95 per year)
    http://www.elib.org/ (50 Euro)
    http://www.gimpsy.com/ ($40)
    http://www.goguides.org/ ($39.99 / $69.95)
    http://www.greatnexus.com/directory/ (n/a) (directory folder has page strength 5)
    http://www.haabaa.com/ (#30 / #50)
    http://www.skaffe.com/ ($44.99)
    http://directory.sootle.com ($19.99) (directory subdomain has page strength of 6.5)
    http://www.tygo.com/dir ($39.99) (directory folder has page strength 6)
    http://www.uncoverthenet.com/ ($39 / $199 per year)
    http://www.wowdirectory.com/ ($35 / $55 per year)




     
    Franck S, Jan 24, 2007 IP