A lot of the recent rave has been about dirjournal.com its a very nice looking dir that i decided to submit to. OK so after paying $35.95 for a regular listing review at dirjournal. I did everything a good submitter should do (read the guidelines, make a unique description etc) but My submission was rejected and fee refunded. Cool i thought but just one thing it would be nice to know why it was rejected. Theres nothing worse than not knowing (maybe something i missed or maybe some steps i can take to improve my site). So i immediately replied back politely asking why was my submission rejected. I waited a while and there was no response. So i wrote another email saying: "Fair enough if you can't give me a reason why my link was declined i will open a dp discussion about it." This wasn't meant as a threat more as an attempt to get a response. Anyway this was my response: That is all fine but why not give me the real reason? As a directory owner myself i respect that you are trying to build a quality resource. As a webmaster this gives negative vibes and has 2 effects: 1. I simply cannot envisage submitting more paid reviews there if you can't give a real reason its 1 strike and out as far as i'm concerned. 2. I cannot recommend dirjournal to anyone since who wants to pay for a premium review only to be rejected. Given that it may have already taken several months observing the directory's progress before taking the plunge. Again the real reason needs to be addressed its not very pleasant not knowing. As a directory owner if a submitter wasn't happy and asked for the reason why they where rejected i would honour this and explain the best i can. Else how could the submitter (customers) ever have any faith in the directory. Overall experience: disapointing
Why not contact directly to DirJournal and ask the details?? http://www.dirjournal.com/contact.php I don't see any reason to come here and open up a thread??? It's nice to know why your site was rejected but I don't know if many directories send that much details as it takes lots of time & resources. Though, we have that setup at BWD
I already did that. The owners response is the quote in my post. Surely its not so time consuming to write a reply with 1 or 2 sentences why my submission was rejected... The owner said feel free to open a dp discussion. Again see the quote.
Does it say anywhere that if they don't list your site, you will get an explanation as to the exact reason why they couldn't list it? I think botw, yahoo and some of the other directories won't even give u ur money back if they don't list ur site.
How I missed that paragraph ? Well, I don't know which site is in discussion here that was rejected with refund but I do know that Hasan really meant when he said Secondly, saying that you will open up a discussion on DP or on any other forum was just not the right move on your part. (Even if it was not meant as a threat, it does sound like one)
No it doesn't do you know any directories that do say that??? I'm not asking for a new rule to be made just a little curtousy.
I'm sure he does mean what he says but that does not tell me what i'd like to know. I don't think i did anything wrong its completely on topic and the owner also approved of this. Given that i knew all of his friends would rally round for him i may have given myself a mountain to climb regardless of what is right or wrong.
Maybe if you posted you submission details we could give you a better look into why you were declined? Even if your website is perfect though, it is their right to decline you. Simply put, it is their directory. Even if your website perfectly meets the submission guidelines.
Well honest to god, I don't even know the guy. Never even talked with him or ever chatted with him. And I don't know u either. Second of all, how long did u wait for a reply? Most places will take up to 2 days to get back to you. Maybe a reply is in the way and u jumped too soon. I mean announcing this stuff publicly, I would at least wait a week or 2 and have a solid reason before I start going out and saying the following
I don't wish to discuss details of my submission (except with the directory owner). This thread is more about: What would you expect as a submitter? Or as a directory owner would you give your customer the real reason if they where to request it? This is fair comment.
I am not aware of Yahoo policies but, BOTW gives you precise reason for declining a submission and they also give you a option to re-submit the site after you have made changes or you can submit a totally different site.
Thats cool. I waited long enough. I started the discussion in reponse to his reply. Again as i previously said the owner said "feel free".
No they don't (with all respect to them) This is the replymost people get from botw, 'non substatial content, non original content' (going by what I've heard here, I could be wrong) Is that precise? It's pre-typed phrases basically. Why don't u try and email them after getting this phrase as the reason of rejection to please verify or elaborate some more on the topic. Also put in there, I'll start a thread on DP if I don't get my reply. Then time it and see how long it takes to get a reply. And on the re-submit your site thing u just mentioned, that's not true. Ask CREED he has experience with them. I think they give u a time period to enter a different site. If u fail within that period, that's it.
And in the ideal world all directories would be like this but not all are and i respect that too. I don't expect a custom message to every rejection explaining the reasons why. But surely those who email you personally asking for reasons why shouldn't they get a response? Everone is in pursuit of improving their sites and rejection is a bit of a kick in the head.
Is BOTW owned by a respected dp member? Does BOTW have rave posts about it all over dp? As far as i know the answer to both of these is no. If however BOTW was owned by a respected and active dp member i would query them and expect explanitive answers as any customer would. Anyway i did not submit to BOTW because i'm not seeing any good reasons why i should.
tough call, many seem to be happy Without giving full details about what was submitted etc thats a tough call , its says payment does not guarantee submission, what more is there ? and it's not a license to get your panties in a knot & snapping strings on the forum. Perhaps another email rather than a dummy spit i will post on the forums, in my understanding these stands tend to go to the back of the pile in the line of things to worry about.
No I am not a friend of Hasan. I barely know him from this form. But I can't say (or even anyone else) anything without listening the other half of the story. Whatever I said above was just "My View" after reading your post. From a Submiter: Well, if my site was rejected I would first look if there was any issue with my submission? If the site that rejected mine actually accept such submission?? Do they have any site similar to mine?? If all that is fine, then I will certainly like to know the details and will like to know the reason of my rejection. As a Directory owner: Well, we do give details where ever necessary to the submitter. And if their site is rejected, whether they ask or not, we do send a follow up email explaining the reason of rejection (not in every cases). But it can take few days depending on the time in hand. But as I said above, I don't now if many directories do that. Coz it takes lots of time, efforts, resources and most of the time, it's of no use.
Yea, cause u probably know that they have tight editorial standards and there could be a chance they may never accept your site. Not disrespecting u, or the dirjournal or anybody else. I think that it's better to try, I mean (really try) to work things out between each other before posting stuff in public like this. Going from what u wrote on the opening thread, seems to me that you were kinda eager, or wanted to make this announcement here, more then actually trying to find out why they didn't list your site. Ok, end of discussion for me I got tons of stuff to do. take care and good luck.
Thats cool your quoting the obvious apart from the panties part. Since when did you need a license to get your panties in a twist? I'm not snapping anything i'm not even angry, just sharing my experience and getting some views from other dp users. I wouldn't think of it as a dummy spit i have took the time to write my posts with a great deal of thought and tried to be fair. I'm not sure what you mean by "these stands" ???