Stupid Blogs Get More Love From Google Than Sites?? WTH?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by gtull1, Dec 30, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hey,

    I'm a bit pissed, but I guess it's funny too.

    Sweet posted an awesome thread the other day about using longtails. I wanted to try it on a test site, and use every bit of what he said. Last night I created the page with those thoughts in mind. I created about 4 links within the same site to this new page.

    The only backlink that I placed for it last night was from a new blog I have going. I started a blog farm a few weeks ago that are extremely niche, but I haven't used any of them yet for backlinks (about to). So I decided to just write a small and stupid post on the same topic with one of these blogs, and create a backlink with identical anchor text that was used as the primary longtail keyword in the test site.

    The first kicker is that ithis stupid blog is: a free wordpress one, my last blog that I have added for the blog farm (one one dumb post before this one), I only used like 100 words in the blog, the wording in the blog was absolute nonsense (I was just rambling), the only time I mentioned the longtail key word was the anchored text backlink that I seeded for the test site.

    Then I noticed today that the new page on my test site was indexed by Google within 10 hours (that's really good for me). I got excited after a while, so I did a Google search for the longtail keyword to see if I could find my new page. By the way, the keyword is a 6 word string.

    Guess what I found on the first page in Google? Yep, the stupid blog!! That dumb blog only has 2 posts, and it is just soooooo bad.

    Guess where my new page for the test site was? The third page!

    What the heck is going on here? The site only deals with this type of content, the test site's page is extremely optimized for this longtail keyword, the site must have AT LEAST 1,000 words in it, the test site has been indexed 7 times longer than the dumb blog!

    What's up? Does google love blogs that much? Even really bad and new blogs?

    Oh yeah, that dumb blog hadn't even been linked into my blog farm yet. It has ZERO backlinks.

    What gives folks? Help me out. Sorry for the long post.

    :O)
     
    gtull1, Dec 30, 2007 IP
  2. w3bmaster

    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #2
    Age maybe

    As of my view blogs and sites don't make difrence as of seo point of view
     
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  3. gtull1

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    #3
    The test site is like 7 times older than the dumb free blog site.

    You see no difference in blogs and sites? Hmmm... I don't get it.

    I went back and checked. It turns out that the dumb blog is listed twice (1st and 2nd page) for that targeted keyword before my test site (3rd page).

    It just makes me wonder. Maybe it's better to be short and sweet on the content? On the test site, I flooded it with relevant content. Set up the <h1> thru <h5> to nail every aspect of the targeted longtail keyword. I mean, I did everything that I know to do. On the stupid blog, I didn't do anything but throw a backlink to the test site. The wordings on it are HORRIBLE, and it's almost pointless (the blog that is).

    I also checked a bit more and found out the test site's new page was indexed in less than 2 hours of me creating it. Hmmmm...

    I also forgot to mention that I did do some pinging for the dumb blog. I pinged it to like 12 different sites (feedburner, yahoo, etc). Sending out pings didn't create backlinks for the blog, did it? If that was the case, all of this would make sense.

    I'm missing something folks. I just don't know what it is, and I can't afford an expert (except you guys :O))

    Thanks for helping me!!

    :O)
     
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    fluid Active Member

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    My understanding of it is as follows:

    Most blogs have automatic pings, therefore your content gets indexed quicker. I've had content indexed within two minutes of posting. Also it does create temporary backlinks for your blog. Same effect which is seen when using social bookmarking. However you will notice that your position will gradually fall out of the first page of google as these backlinks disappear.

    Therefore you can use these blogs to make indexing of your content on your main site quicker. And you need to keep on building quality links if you want to keep on the top rankings of google.

    fluid
     
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    webdigo Banned

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    #5
    FLUID mentioned a very good point. Ping is a good factor.
    Another issue is most blogs follow a limited number of patterns, which makes it easier for crawlers search the blogs and thus rank better.
     
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    Pinging creates temporay backlinks?? If true, that explains it I guess. That would mean that the algo weight given for backlinks is much greater than the weight given for relevant content that's seo'ed.

    Very interesting.

    :O)
     
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    Google also loves fresh, new content. So the new blog showing up first doesn't really surprise me. If I go 2-3 days without updating my blog, my traffic drops tremendously. That's why I try and post something everyday :)
     
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    The blog and the test site were both published within an hour of each other.

    Update: Well, this thing (whatever it was) fixed itself. Now the test site is showing up at #1 for the longtail keyword phrase (ahead of the dumb blog). Weird. makes me feel better though. lol I publsihed this page, created 2 backlinks, and got #1 on Google for the longtail, all within 24 hours. Thanks Sweet!!! Granted, it's not a competitive keyword phrase (well, not very competitive), but this is the quickest and best feedback I have gotten from google yet. I'm amazed.

    :O)
     
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    In my view, Google love blog since that they owned blogger..... And they are easily crawled....Since in my experience all post made in blogger is easily indexed in less than 3 hours time...
     
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    I wonder if the pinging has something to do with the short time needed for a blog to get indexed? It has to, doesn't it?

    :O)
     
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    LinksDeveloper Peon

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    #11
    Very Good Ques.
    Good Feature of pinging, and the most of the blogs like wordpress have tableless themes i.e made by css.
    I think google don't read css of the sites and google will get a single plain page. You can check it in "Cached Text" Of google what will google see. Atleast you will get an idea out of it.
    Correct me if i'm wrong.
    Regards
     
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    Wow, it's strange. It means you have so many loyal visitors. If you have many visitors from SEs, your traffic will only drop a little bit.
     
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    75% +/- of my traffic comes from SE's.

    gtull1,

    Glad to see everything worked out for you :) The results are always rewarding.
     
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    My first blog only had 1 or 2 posts on it. One post was about the new iPhone and its durability. I just created it with a free blogger.com account, and it didn't take anytime to get indexed. Same story for my current blog, a free wordpress.com blog, which I will probably move to my own hosting. It didn't take anytime to get indexed, and I just noticed today that I was on the first page for "build a niche store strategies". How cool is that? I am on page 4 for "build a niche store".

    My guess would be this: Google value's blogs over normal sites because blogs are dynamic and regular sites are static for the most part. So my strategy will be this, I am going to use all of those web 2.0 technologies and link them to my main site.

    I am liking web 2.0. Also I completely agree with the post every day comment. This will also give a reason for regulars to check your site every few days, if not daily.
     
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    Also, keep in mind that blogs on Wordpress.com receive links from within Wordpress from tag pages with keywords. For example, if you used the tag "ipod," then Wordpress.com's page for the tag/keyword "ipod" added a link to your blog. That helps you get indexed faster.
     
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    SE's love blogs, cant beat em. They get indexed much faster and higher than most sites, this is the MAJORITY of the blogs though, not all the time though.
     
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    Google loves blogs because they are more frequently updated with fresh contents whereas the sites are not. Further crawling a blog is little bit easy when compared to sites and for this reason, a blog becomes relatively more popular than the sites.
     
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    I did not know that. I have only recently started using tags. I haven't gotten around to putting them on all of my posts yet, and I'm trying to keep them extremely relevant to the keywords I have chosen for that particular post.
     
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    You know, I just put that together last night. I noticed that some of my dumb blog's showings in serp were actually wordpress tag pages. OK, so how many tags can I make? lololol

    By the way, I update this test site at least once every day to make it dynamic. I change/ add at least 5 pages every day.

    :O)
     
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    I think google still perceives it as static even though you update it frequently. It isn't hurting you doing that. I am certain it has its own benefits. I am sure that googlebot will check your site daily... (it is indexed already isn't it?). If it isn't indexed and you are having trouble getting it indexed then try getting backlinks from high PR sites so it will get indexed. If that doesn't work, then manually submit your site to Google.

    As far as the tags go, I have only used about 5 at one time per post so far. I would think if you use more than 10 google/wordpress may perceive it as spam. Maybe you can check their forum and see if anyone knows what the limit is, or you could just keeping adding tags until it says you can't add anymore tags.
     
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