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Stumbleupon traffic (with tos agreement) ????

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by delsia, Feb 7, 2007.

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    As i now start to think that Stumble upon is being consider "auto surf Traffic" by Google.
    As i received a boost of traffic from stumble upon in the past few days ( that made me happy) i received an email from Google stating this:

    Hello Delsia *Last name*,

    It has come to our attention that invalid clicks or impressions have
    been generated on the Google ads on your site(s) through users of
    third-party programs paid or provided with other incentives to visit
    your site. Such programs include, but are not limited to auto-surf,
    pay-to-surf, pay-to-read, or pay-to-click sites. Please bear in mind that if we continue to detect invalid clicks or
    impressions from these services on your ads, we may disable your
    account to protect our advertisers etc.....



    So i looked at all the stat for every one of my website and like all of them get around 2-3 uniques each day except for this one : smazs.com
    And i never gotten no notice from Google about invalid clicks until i got this boast of traffic, I'm not sure if this email is related to the traffic I'm getting but check out my stats: http://www.smazs.com/goog.gif
    So as you can see 74 of my traffic came from Stumble upon...

    Has any one gotten Emails from Google about Similar cases and can relate to Stumble upon.

    Also Last question:
    is stumble upon traffic considerer Auto Surf traffic ? because if it is i need a way to top receiving traffic from stumble upon so i can save my account.
    SEMrush
    thanks in advance.
    ~delsia
     
    delsia, Feb 7, 2007 IP
    SEMrush
  2. rustybrick

    rustybrick User ID 3

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    Can you email them back asking about Stumble Upon?
     
    rustybrick, Feb 8, 2007 IP
  3. casperl

    casperl Peon

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    Yes, please try to email them and ask for stumbleupon. I would like to hear more about this too.
     
    casperl, Feb 8, 2007 IP
  4. FIVE539

    FIVE539 Peon

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    hmmm sounds interesting
     
    FIVE539, Feb 8, 2007 IP
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    Red_Virus Well-Known Member

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    yes you should email them back, explaining them abt the origination of traffic
     
    Red_Virus, Feb 8, 2007 IP
  6. kh7

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    Well, if they just look at the traffic pattern (as they are likely to do), stumbleupon would look like 'autosurf' type traffic - especially if it is a main source of traffic for your site. I do think mailing them and explaining the situation should help. After all - it is human traffic, and it is also in a sense targeted traffic.
    The only other option you really have is to delete the adsense code from pages that get stumbled, until your site starts getting significant traffic from other sources as well - that is.
     
    kh7, Feb 8, 2007 IP
  7. john_nyc

    john_nyc Active Member

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    i inquired about stumble and rcvd this response


    Thanks for your email. It is our policy not to endorse or support any
    specific product at this time. We're therefore not able to comment
    specifically on the program you've noted.

    However, we recommend that you read through the AdSense Terms and
    Conditions (https://www.google.com/adsense/terms ) to ensure that your
    software it is not violation of any of our policies.

    Thanks for your cooperation and understanding.


    Sincerely,
     
    john_nyc, Feb 8, 2007 IP
  8. mharad

    mharad Peon

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    I've had some StumbleUpon surges and didn't hear a word for Google. Is it possible that your site is present on an autosurf program somewhere else?
     
    mharad, Feb 8, 2007 IP
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    Ganceann Peon

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    My take on the subject is the following:

    Stumbleupon (and all other social networking sites) that are used to generate traffic (MySpace Bulletins, Digg traffic etc), have 2 methods of traffic generation.

    First method is self generated and hyped that leads to a surge in traffic... this would be against google TOS as it would be deemed unnatural.

    Second method is organic... that complies to google TOS as it is other people who are generating the traffic to the site.

    The problem lies where google determine if it is natural or unnatural and how they determine it etc... could be due to trust score (so new sites more likely to be tagged as unnatural traffic etc).
     
    Ganceann, Feb 8, 2007 IP
  10. bhopkins

    bhopkins Banned

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    This is really interesting. I've gotten a lot of traffic from StumbleUpon and never recieved such a notice. Of course most of the time the traffic I get from here does not convert so that may be the difference.
     
    bhopkins, Feb 8, 2007 IP
  11. kh7

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    Stumbleupon traffic does not usually convert anyhow. But a publisher that gets payed per impression would get payed for stumbleupon traffic - and that might make google frown. Also - stumbleupon creates lower CTR-rates, and that in itself might make google frown.

    It isn't an option to stop people stumbling a site - I mean it is free traffic! So I hope google will just understand and leave this publisher be.
     
    kh7, Feb 10, 2007 IP
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    qwestcommunications Notable Member

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    I quite agree. But how would google discriminate between self generated traffic and traffic that is genuine?
     
    qwestcommunications, Feb 10, 2007 IP
  13. Rub3X

    Rub3X Well-Known Member

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    I've gotten over a hundred thousand uniques from stumble upon, and it's never been an issue :confused:
     
    Rub3X, Feb 10, 2007 IP
  14. Tearabite

    Tearabite Prominent Member

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    i have gotten (and continue to get) traffic from Stumbleupon, and IMHO i cannot phathom how G would consider this a violation of their TOS. It is not "autosurf" anymore that Digg or del.ico.us is - it is a social bookmarking/review site that presents your site to people with similar interests..
     
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  15. delsia

    delsia Well-Known Member

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    I'm trying to see if it relates to that, because i never got an notice about this until i started getting tons of traffic from stumble upon. And no none of my sites are under an auto surf network.
     
    delsia, Feb 10, 2007 IP