StumbleUpon Discoveries

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by Gallito, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. #1
    For the past three posts I've written on my blog I haven't been able to discover my own posts. I have no problems discovering my squidoo lenses, etc. yet I cannot stumble my new blog posts (which are not at all spammy). It's a new site so I really need to work up a little buzz for it, anyone know why this is happening and how I could fix it?
     
    Gallito, Jan 23, 2008 IP
  2. taylorwilsdon

    taylorwilsdon Peon

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    #2
    If you stumble too many posts on your own site (could be just 1 to trigger the "alarm") you will be banned. You aren't supposed to stumble your own site.
     
    taylorwilsdon, Jan 23, 2008 IP
  3. sirjorgeofculver

    sirjorgeofculver Well-Known Member

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    what? seriously? you can get banned from stumbleupon? wth?
     
    sirjorgeofculver, Jan 23, 2008 IP
  4. bumpinthosebeats

    bumpinthosebeats Peon

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    #4
    talorwilson is correct, its in the terms you agreed to when you signed up for stumbleupon, the key is to not get caught. If you are discovering the same site over and over, even if its diff pages, SU will frown on you and most likely ban you. My site was banned from SU. Gave me a minor set back, but there are ways around it. Can't tell you exactly what to do, but use your head! you will figure it out.

    :)
     
    bumpinthosebeats, Jan 23, 2008 IP
  5. waynelyp90

    waynelyp90 Banned

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    You can stumble your own sites but you must keep the ratio in tact, which is speculated around 1:5 or 6. If all of your stumbles are for your site, your site and your SU account will get banned.
     
    waynelyp90, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  6. LongHaul

    LongHaul Peon

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    I don't understand this at all. This seems like it would hurt SU in the long run. What about big sites like Fark.com that must get stumbled a lot, sometimes by the same users over and over?

    I find it hard to believe that SU cares about whether or not it's your own sites that you're stumbling. If other users give them the thumbs up a lot, who cares where the original stumble came from? And if someone is stumbling pages in their useless spammy web directory, they will get only thumbs down and quickly disappear. Seems like it's a self-correcting system.

    But how can you tell if your account is banned? When I stumble any of my several sites now (that I don't see how are traceable to me, and feature good, original content anyway that used to seem popular with stumblers) I get no visitors. But my SU account pages seem the same, I don't appear to be 'banned'. Is there some notification? And if so, what do I have to do? Make a new duplicate account? That seems bad for me and SU, why would they set their system up like that? Is it just another case of a company getting too big and losing the plot?
     
    LongHaul, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  7. ColorWP.com

    ColorWP.com Notable Member

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    #7
    I have experienced the same a while back. I could stumble maximum of 3 URLs from the same site one after other and after that the next stumble from this URL is just not counted or shown, it's just filtered out.

    You need to play safe and "fool" the filter by stumbling a lot of other sites than your own. Try it, it's so fun tool. Use it for entertainment, not just marketing.
     
    ColorWP.com, Jan 24, 2008 IP
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #8
    I can not agree more with this. The more we use it the way it should be used, then the more realistic it is. yeah, yeah, toss in a few of your own sites, that's only human, but don't use it as a spamming method. If your sites are worthy, they will get restumbled and reviewed... if not, then you are just wasting your time & the time of other stumblers.

    The same applies to other social networking and bookmarking sites as well.
     
    Qryztufre, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  9. davewashere

    davewashere Active Member

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    I'd really like to know how their filter works. Is it ok to stumble lots of my pages as long as I stumble 6 or more pages for every one of my own? I stumble and review a lot of random stuff anyway, so this wouldn't be a problem.
     
    davewashere, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  10. LongHaul

    LongHaul Peon

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    Artificially stumbling sites just to satisfy a spooky, secret ratio, thus adding a bunch of junk to SU, is how "it's supposed to be used"??

    When stumbling, I come across the stupidest pages. Not ones that seem to have been done for marketing purposes, just useless pages that don't load or don't make sense. So I give them thumbs down. If most others do too, that page will stop being shown, no? And it's 100% irrelevant who first submitted it.

    Well, it would seem to make sense to me anyway. As it is, I'll go look for some other sites to stumble that otherwise I wouldn't have, just so I can stumble my own again that people actually enjoy and comment on.
     
    LongHaul, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  11. ColorWP.com

    ColorWP.com Notable Member

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    What if I provide a good content that the stumblers will enjoy? What is the problem of submitting my own sites often if it is actually stumble worthy?

    Even if it's not useful, it will just get thumbs-down and get lost eventually. That is the purpose of StumbleUpon. To contain and rank ALL of the pages on the internet and give them to the stumblers according to their needs and the quality of the page (amount of thumb-ups other people gave to it). :eek:
     
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  12. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    I don't think you read me right, or maybe I came across differently then I meant. I don't think it should be used to fill in the blanks so that one can make that spooky secret ratio...I think it should be used to give good quality sites that others would also enjoy.

    Using it to push your own sites by stumbling your own content, then randomly picking sites to meet the quota only down grades the overall experience for all involved.

    Now, I'm not against people using it to thumb up their own pages, but discretion should be used.

    If you are stumbling your own pages that have good content that others will enjoy is all good and swell, IMHO. Just understand that others may not think so...

    Personally I am more critical when thumbing up my own sites then I am with other sites. I've seen some of my own pages stumbled by others that I personally didn't think worthy, but *shrug*
     
    Qryztufre, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  13. ColorWP.com

    ColorWP.com Notable Member

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    I will give an example. Lets say you have a SEO company. You may not provide the best and cheapest service for your customers, but you try to rank on #1 in Google for the keyword "SEO services", right? Not all of the visitors that get to your site from the first page will be satisfied, but some will be. You just try to satisfy the needs of a percentage of them.

    It is the same with SU. Not all people will like your submitted page (there are very popular pages or article that have hundreds of positive reviews but still there are people giving them thumb-down and saying the page is a "crap").

    And in the end, submitting my own site brings me FREE semi-targeted traffic and I give good content for "some" of the visitors, so why should I not take advantage? :)
     
    ColorWP.com, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  14. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Ultimately, that is what I'm saying... what I'm not saying is that you should stumble every page on your site (like some people seemingly do).

    Got a blog? Great, stumble it!
    Got a good blog entry? Fantastic, stumble it!
    Just don't stumble every entry...

    And like you said earlier, Use it for entertainment, not just marketing.

    When it's just used as a marketing tool, then we all loose.
     
    Qryztufre, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  15. Gallito

    Gallito Peon

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    I do use it for fun as well, I have around 600 stumbles. I guess I was just dumb and went back and stumbled some a bunch of my entries in one day without spacing them. I don't submit bad pages to it, if I did it wouldn't have any benefit for me as it would get enough thumbs down that I wouldn't continue to get traffic (on average I am getting 500-600 uniques per discovery, this is only possible when a decent percentage of the stumlbers like the content).
     
    Gallito, Jan 24, 2008 IP
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    Stumbles are ok but you need some backlinks to BACK it up!

    Stumbles are good for traffic but rankings? Not At All Really.
     
    gotlinks, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  17. Gallito

    Gallito Peon

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    True but I just want to build a base for my site via traffic, enough traffic does lead to links eventually. Building relevant links is something that I'll try to figure out down the line, blogs have many good options for this but I haven't really tested any yet (other than SB's).
     
    Gallito, Jan 24, 2008 IP