Study: 41 million in U.S. can't afford basics

So duh, stop giving out free money in the form of social services. And make legal immigration possible so that immigrants pay their taxes.

This problem is caused by bad government and the solution is not to throw more bad government at it.

 

yeah let poor people lay ill in the street, cut of emergency medical care to American citizens so some businesses can save a few bucks on labor

 

Was that supposed to make sense or be relevant?

 

umm yeah, illegals fill emergency rooms looking for medical attention. That is one of the major social services that they use.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150750,00.html

you are saying people should not be allowed to go to the emergency rooms of hospitals , in order to allow more illegals the country. Cut of social services to citizens so we can allow more non-citizens in?

 

That's from late 2006. It is now late 2007. A lot has changed with the Iranian nuclear situation.

You do not understand Fractional Reserve Banking.

Why is there a need to control the money supply besides Congress, who has been authorized by the Constitution to do so?

This doesn't make any sense. We're talking about gold reserves, not gold as a currency.

And that is the problem in a nutshell.

 

There needs to be an entire system overhaul. I can't wait for the 2008 presidential elections.

 

Because Congress critters are so incompetent they can't balance their own checkbooks.

That's why they delegate to professional subject matter experts.

Haven't you ever been in management?

 

Our soldiers are the best trainned in the world, Im sure what we are talking is already in the training program and the military can manage their efficient trainning programs to get this trainning in. I'm not going to put anything past their trainning.

Just using high powered binoculars, high powered night vision (whatever our highly trainned troops have at their disposal) at the border and spot them before they get into private lands.

Their are lots of gov't programs for businesses being applyed and approved every day. Businesses will not go out of business or leave the country. They need U.S. agriculture and services (where illegals work at anyway). The programs are really for getting labor as illegals leave their jobs, incentives to compensate for the higher wages that will be payed now and enough to pay for the costs of the wages as the incentives get going.

 

Our soldiers are the best trained in the world - today. You are proposing to change that by removing combat training and replacing it with "housekeeper chasing."

Right... have you ever been to the border? The whole thing really isn't a flat prarie where you can see miles into Mexico and onto all of the private land in the U.S.

Do you understand how binoculars work? Are you familiar with the term "field of vision"? Are you willing to employ hundreds of thousands of people to sit on the border and watch for little brown housekeepers running North to find work?

Are you really ready to spend hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to subsidize U.S. businesses just so that you can live in a country without immigrants?

Where do you think all of these millions of new laborers are going to come from? Have you seen the unemployment rate during the last decade? It is almost all frictional unemployment. We have almost no structural unemployment in the economy.

You can't tax the American public enough to pay these companies to stay in business with no employees to create goods and services.

 

Right Ahmadinejad considers this case closed.

I understand fraction reserve banking very well. I think you don't understand it.

Right because congress is full of economic geniuses. Would you really want 435 people setting monetary policy according to their local needs?

 

Actually a lot of them do pay taxes and lot of them do pay social security taxes and most follow the rules of law here other then come across here illegally.

 

Doesn't staying here illegally equate to them continuing to break the law every single day they are here 'illegally'

Murderers follow the law for the most part, besides when they murder someone, same with people who steal cars, etc..

 

Except with people who murder and steal there is usually a pattern of illegal behavior prior to murder or grand theft auto.

 

How are they paying taxes if they're here illegally?

 

Pattern to illegal behaviour, such as a daily pattern of breaking the law by being here illegally. You do realise that is a pattern as every day, the simple fact of them being here is illegal and a continued pattern don't you?

 

and a lot of them get paid cash under the table

 

You can contact the IRS and get a tax ID number to fill taxes and open bank accounts. To get a TAX ID your legal status doesn't matter.

 

Prostitutes can also pay taxes on their earnings, it doesn't take away from them breaking the law

 

No, that is not possible but more trainning gets added all the time.

Yes the border has vantage point to spot border jumper miles before they reach the border and no privacy is not an issue with opts watching from different angles away from private areas. It shouldn't disrupt views of private land owners as small units would take turns watching for illegals for trainning practices.

The numbers are no where near that. And there are usually is no need for tax increases for business programs like these. This is for really southwest farms and service businesses to transition to legal workers. There are plenty of workers that need to be of legal working status.

 

A couple quick points.

Something to offer up to Mexico to police on their end, perhaps us not taking a chunk of land for a buffer zone?

A buffer zone would get rid of the entire argument of private land