Study: 41 million in U.S. can't afford basics

Umm... your plan is to build a base every 50 yards across the entire border with Mexico and both of our coastal borders?

If they know that we won't shoot them, what is their motivation to stop running?

The Military isn't really good at things which don't involve killing people. Luckily, they are really good at things which do involve killing people.

 

One thing that could be done, is to create diplomatic pressure on Mexico to stop immigration. Make them defend their own borders and enforce the rule of law.

 

That's pissing up a rope. The Mexican government has no interest in that.

What could we do to interest them in that? We can't threaten them -- we have no reasonable "stick" motivator. All we can use is a carrot -- i.e. we pay them to do it. If we're going to pay them to do it, we might as well do it ourselves.

 

not a bases every 50 yards, stations every so often with secret patrols, can also be used in training.

 

What would you define as "every so often"? 500 miles?

Do you really want to ruin our nations military preparedness by wasting our troops valuable training time learning to walk?

What are your plans for patrolling private land that lays on the border?

 

It's not wasting training time, the bases will have everthing they need to be trained. It is an added training technique which I'm not quite sure is an added detail in trainning. You would think that area control, boundary control is a part of trainning, not sure at what level but if your have fully functioning bases there almost every level of trainning can take place there. I'm not sure the distance but seeing military opreations on the border and guard the blind spots carefully is possible.

Well with private lands you can position look outs 24/7 as trainning detail too, to watch the border.

 

Sounds like a good job for Eric Prince's private army (aka Blackwater). We can hire them for Mexican wages when Ron Paul puts an end to the needless wars.

 

Except when you peg the dollar to a commodity and don't allow it to trade freely it leads to massive problems.

 

Except the amount of money that Mexicans in the US send back helps sustain their economy. Its their second largest export behind oil.

 

It is completely wasted training time. When you train the troops to hunt housekeepers and gardeners, they lose their edge when hunting trained terrorists and enemy soldiers.

Training is what keeps the brave men and women of our armed forces alive. Using them to hunt gardeners will get them killed when their real opponents turn out not to be gardeners.

What good do you hope to achieve with that? The Mexicans will just walk between the bases. If you put the bases close enough that this is impossible, you will bankrupt the nation.

Well, you will bankrupt it faster. If you manage to stop illegal immigration, you're already dooming us to a permanent recession.

So your plan is for the Federal Government to use it's power of Imminent Domain to seize private land?

BlackWater wouldn't work for Mexican wages. Those guys are professionals, they have options.

If you want to build, maintain, and monitor this fence you're going to need to hire hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to do it for you.

If you pay professional wages, you're going to bankrupt the Federal government.

 

Are long as we have a growing economy there will be an incentive for immigrants to come over here.

 

To have a growing economy, we need immigrants over here.

 

Except you assume that everyone will nod their head and go along with the changes but don’t you think people adapt and change.

While XYZ company is hit with a 10 million dollar fine are you going to hit your doctor with a 10 million dollar fine for hiring a Mexican nanny? What about Mexicans who get fake IDs and SS numbers? The company assumed by having those documents that they were legal how is the company at fault for hiring someone who they thought would is legally here.

If Banks stop accepting their money they’ll just send more of it back home. No problem. Stop letting their kids go to school they’ll just leave them in Mexico with family and still come here.

 

Indeed the have options. They were nearly bankrupt prior to the Iraq war, there best option is to keep stirring the pot in Iraq, the longer the conflict goes on, the longer they will keep getting no bid contracts.

 

Yes certain goods have increased because of inflation and certain goods and services have decreased in price like telephone service, cell phone service, the cost of a car has decreased when rebates are factored in. The price of Appliances has fallen, over the last 30 years so has the amount of money people spend on clothes.

 

No one said that oil will pay for the war, they said oil will pay for the reconstruction of Iraq and they are almost correct with that other then the initial 18 billion that we gave for reconstruction of Iraq. Iraq has been paying for its own rebuilding. What we have been paying for is keeping the military there.

 

How often do you go buy gold? Daily? Weekly? Monthly?

Gold is considered a hedge against inflation people by gold if they fear inflation will increase which people are betting will happen because the fed lowered interest rates recently.

 

But I was right on all of the others ones, yes?

 

There is so much to trainning and so many troops to be trainned, there will be enough time in the day to have rotations of trainnning along side the detail there.

We can't have a bases every few miles, but can definetly have posts. We will have patrols covering the blind spot or the places in between posts. It won't bankrupt the nation the have trainning facilites and a base or two moved to the border.

Nobody is seizing any land, lookouts can range for miles and have pick up posts in public areas to pick up illegals

The military can do that and would want to do that.

There are gov't programs that can be put into place to transitions companies from the loss of illegal workers and these companies will make the adjustments needed to hire minimum wage with these programs. Our economy will be fine.

 

There have been crashes prior to the fed, Here is about 100 years worth

Panic of 1819
Panic of 1857
Panic of 1873
Panic of 1884
Panic of 1890
Panic of 1893
Panic of 1896
Panic of 1901
Panic of 1907
Panic of 1910-1911

In fact the Fed has been a stabilizing factor in the economy.