Students Who Got Arrested But Spoke Loud Against Israel

What every self respecting journalist knows? It seems the majority of self respecting journalists dispute what the quoted source in your links has to say. They even made a movie about the man. Not surprising to see you trying to sell radicalism as a fact.

Listen Menj. You may be able to get away with peddling anti-Israel sentiment while calling yourself a Muslim, but your pornography business is completly unacceptable. You are a hoax, a sham, a liar, a hypocrite, and a horrible representation of Islam. If you and your wife like peddling porn, or participating in strange and kinky sex acts involving farm animals, that's your affair. Just quit claiming to speak for Islam. Quit claiming to be a Muslim. You are not a Muslim. I hope the other Muslims on this forum will join me in asking you to stop your anti-Islamic propaganda.

 

Poisoning the well argument, nothing more. You might want to try something better than that.

Its funny how you address me with my husband's name each time you try to "reply", but yet I am still around and you are still unable to prove otherwise. As for the nonsensical ad hominem arguments you keep representing ad nauseam, I'll say it again: this was responded to weeks ago and you have nothing solid to pin my husband with this.

Keep repeating your ad hominem attacks, it doesn't bode well for your "credibility"...or should I say, the lack of it. I am not going away anytime soon, now that I've come back, so you are just wasting your breath if you think you can scare me away with your lies.

 

Obviously you had nothing credible to refute my points. Falling back on accusations of logical fallacies only helps to accentuate the weakness of your argument. You don't even bother to qualify or rephrase statements like "every journalist knows".

Its obvious I am talking to Menj and not Awin. Awin's english skills are only marginally better than those of a chimpanzee. The difference between the wording in her posts and yours is like night and day.

First off, you need to go back and figure out what an ad hominem is. You obviously don't have a clue. Secondly, your comments on the link do nothing to refute the mountains of evidence that directly link you to XXXDirectory.net.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1852156&p=14516971#post14516971

For those who care to find out, read that entire thread. This so called Muslim is heavily involved in the pornography business. Change your avater!

 

If one were to read the article with their brain instead of something else, they would easily come to the conclusion that MEMRI is hardly a credible organisation.

If you want speak me English broken bad, I do that can also. Silly assume things not case help you at all, yes?

Oh, I do know what an "ad hominem" is, alright. Your "response" is replete with it. Instead of dealing with the issue at hand about MEMRI's (lack of) credibility, you instead decide to go on a new-found crusade of slander and mockery against myself and my husband.

Let's assume that for one moment that we do have a "pron directory" as you think we do (this lie was refuted here). What does this has to do with MEMRI being credible or otherwise? Its obvious that you are grasping at straws.

Isn't it ironic that the data from the same website are now drastically different from the original, once we informed the webmaster of the error in their tool and told them to update it? Relying on outdated information due to a tool glitch does not help you with the slander.

Not going to happen. Now lets go back to the issue of MEMRI, and your over-reliance on a discredited source.

 

Are you saying you are awins, not menj, and that you deliberately speak in poor English on your blog?

I think most people have wondered why the blog is written in what would be considered stereotypical "Indian English" while your posts here, although not perfect, are in decent English.

Actually, NO. This isn't in the least bit ironic.

I said it earlier too - you are over using the word without having a clear understanding of what irony actually is. >.<'

 

Changing contact information on a site requires little more than an email. Obviously you've been sending such emails to the many sites out there that link you to XXXDirectory.net. I suspect that is the reason you haven't been posting for the last few weeks. It amazes me that you would be so lazy and sloppy about covering up the ties which connect you in no uncertain terms to the porn industry, especially in light of the fact that such acts are a crime in the country in which you live. Change your avatar and quit claiming to speak for Muslims.

 

Nope, wrong again. This is the reason why I haven't been around for some time. For someone who claims to be following my blog, you sure aren't keep abreast of the facts.

And still running away from the MEMRI issue, I see! Come out and admit that MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself, and we'll wrap this up.

 

I never claimed to read you blog Menj. If I am going to read fiction, I'd rather read something entertaining.

Yah yah. If you keep on saying it over and over, perhaps it will become true, right Menj? Its the strategy you seem to to have taken with your pornography business. Too bad the facts don't line up for you. I addressed your MEMRI allegations in a previous post. I notice you never responded directly to it.

 

Then you really really should. It will give you a better perspective of the world than the cesspool you are accustomed to.

Nope, not responded to at all. All you did was to rely on a movie about Norman Finkelstein? What does that have got to do with the evidence I cited? There were many more authorities quoted besides him (Brian Whittaker, for example).

Worst case of a straw man argument and red herring, if I haven't seen one already. Try again. My original position, that MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself, still stands.

 

Like I said, I don't read fiction.

I didn't rely on any movie. I cited a movie. The movie, along with all the rest of the surrounding documentation on Norman Finklestein mark him as anti-Israeli. I cited the movie, and the rest of the evidence showing the man's clearly stated political agenda to demonstrate that he is far from an unbiased source. It was a criticism of your idiotic remark stating that "every self-respecting journalist" knows that Memri is nothing more than propaganda.

I laughed when you cited another "self-respecting" and unbiased journalist by mentioning Brian Whittaker from the Guardian.
From the Wiki link:

The paper and its "journalists" are synonymous with the word bias, and apparently, that bias leans against Israel. Having one of their reporters accusing any organization of bias in their reporting is hypocritical to the point of being laughable.

Like I've said many times now Menj. Quit claiming to be a Muslim, and go peddle your hatred of Israel and pornography some place else.

 

He does criticise Israel for their excesses, yes. So? What is your point really? Your reliance on logical fallacies are becoming very regular lately.

(This fallacy is known as "poisoning the well")

I wasn't relying on him as the only source, so again, it seems that you are quite off the mark. Dr. Finkelstein's political position has got nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself.

It seems that you did not digest the source(s) properly. I suggest that you go back and read both articles, from top to bottom.

Among many others, yes. This was actually demonstrated by Whittaker in that e-amil debate with MEMRI's founder. Again, what does this have got to do with the fact that MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself? Its interesting how you keep moving the goal posts and try to "refute" something which is barely related to the point that MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself.

I won't even bother addressing this ad hominem, but lets say (for the sake of the argument) I do agree with you and that I do indeed have "a burning, raging hatred of Israel" and that I do "own a network of raunchy, erotic pornographic websites" with my husband. Again, what does this have got to do with the fact that MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself?

So go ahead and kindly inform me, what evidence have you provided apart from your straw man, poisoning the well, ad hominem and moving the goalposts arguments that shows contrary evidence to the fact that MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself? And yes, I have indeed bolded the phrase MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself many, many times so that this original argument is hammered into your brain and readers who are following this thread can easily see how deceptive your arguments truly are.

 

Truth at last. Now quit calling yourself a Muslim and there will be no additional need for me to respond to your posts.

By the way, has anyone ever told you that a lie does not become truth, no matter how many times you repeat it? Your repetition in the last post made you appear unhinged, though I suspect you were just keyword spamming for the link you dropped. I believe this forum considers that to be a black hat SEO technique, potentially qualifying you for a ban.

 

Great to know, so let's wrap it up with the conclusion that you do not have any argument(s) to prove anything contrary to the statement that MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself. Finally you have taken the first step in conceding to the argument.

No idea what mumbo-jumbo you are babbling about here, but admitting defeat to the premise of "MEMRI is a Zionist-propagandistic website which uses faulty translations to delude people like yourself" is certainly something positive.

 

I agree it looks the same to me. Where's the proof on this?

 

Per the LA Times, they were arrested but not charged. That effectively kept them from disrupting the school function at which the ambassador was a guest speaker.

The student group that organized said disruption had a meeting with detailed minutes planning how to disrupt the speech, and emails discussing same. Their notes and or emails also instructed the participants to lie about the Muslim Student Union having organized it. They wanted it to appear spontaneous. Lying about it (and getting caught doing so) has landed the MSU in hot water with the school, and they may end up suspending the MSU from campus. (source)

Like others, when the intent of the group was to STOP someone from being able to speak... it's hard to characterize a defense of them as striking a blow for free speech. Either way, they planned to intentionally disrupt a school function, and schools are allowed to keep order in their assemblies. The first amendment doesnt grant someone the unlimited right to disturb the peace either. If I run thru the streets screaming in the night I'm pretty sure the neighbors would have me arrested.. not for what I said, but for where and when I said it.

That's the way it works here. They could have stood outside and said whatever they wanted, but trying to break up the assembly by stopping the guy from speaking isnt protected by the first amendment. If a group had made it impossible for Ahmendenajad to speak while here, they'd have landed in hot water too.