I just noticed that people are buying and selling Myspace etc... spam in the advertising forum. This spam is annoying as heck to real users and should not be tolerated or coddled as it is being done here. This is the new version of email spam and sooner or later will be illegal (it already violates the TOS of the social networking sites) Please take measures to stop people from selling spam on social networking sites.
easiest thing for you to do = dont look at those sort of posts m8, and if you feel that badly about it report the person to myspace or whatever social bookmarking site yourself, and as of yet they are doing nothing illegal , happy days
hmm call me progressive but i would like to think there are better ways to get your site known then spamming a bunch of people who are expecting comments from their friends. I actually reported the entire DP forum to MySpace in hopes News Corp can be more persuasive than me in helping end spam... at least from here.
do you have a myspace profile? everyday i get about 7 girls who want me to view their cam, some chick telling me i have won a target giftcard, some guy telling me how long this pill made his wang and some other chick telling me she wants to meet me but i have to sign up for this website first and finally some loan consultant who has approved me for a loan that i never applied for. Then i check my email *which thankfully weeds most of it out* and i have virtually the same messages. Also many of these spam salesmen actually brute force hack other accounts and use them to spam your messages... so you are supporting hackers and spam by allowing this to take place here.
i don't care about myspace! in my own social networking website i get a lot of spam! and i know my members are spamming, but then controlling it is impossible! yes people in dp buy bulitten board posts etc of myspace! but then dp is not responsible for that, it is myspace's problem, let them solve it
Not DP's problem? NO NO NO. It is DP's problem because they openly facilitate it and doing so is abetting it which is helping it prosper. If major sites like DP took a stance against it this would help reduce the amount of spam overall and would instead begin to train us that spamming is a bad way to promote our websites and businesses I am quite frankly shocked that so many of you dont seem to give two flying rats about this problem as we are all victims of spam and non of us enjoy it yet I am seeing many of you participate in it. I for one am a responsible businessman and am against such practices.
1. Good for you, don't buy those services. 2. If you wish to report someone violating myspace terms and conditions, myspace.com is the place to do that - not DP. 3. It is not DP's responsibility to check the TOS of every potentially impacted third party. As for trying to tell everyone and control how they promote their sites - I certainly don't care what you think, and I am not even a spammer. I hardly think they will give a crap about your spam free desires.
I find it odd that we the webMASTERS succumb to such stupidity and naivety. Remember when spam started? i do and it sucked. One day i was getting email from friends the next I was inundated witch crappy ads. Years into the crisis Congress took action against email spam and soon expanded to included all forms of unsolicited electronic spam (which would include comments / bulletin post that violate a sites TOS). I am just dumbfounded that you guys are all disagreeing with me no matter whether you use the service or think highly enough of DP to believe they can make a difference. I guess you're either all just sleazy webmasters from Nigeria and Pakistan looking to make your quick buck or just don't care enough to protect the netizens that give their trust to us daily. The spam on myspace has contributed to the distribution of malware and encouraged young hackers to find loopholes in the sites code that allow autoposting and to find ways to brute force hack others profiles to spam their friends. IMHO I would love a service that let me say something to all of my friends automatically, but when advetisers do it this becomes rude and can lead to fewer people using the site... just like Yahoo! Chat back in '99 when the hackers started kicking people from rooms, locking pc's and spamming rooms with ads. It made the place an unwelcome place to visit and eventually Yahoo's Chat spiraled down the usage charts. btw. I just had to delete 9 of your 'spam' ads from my comments section.
people do what they can to get traffic, spam can and is more not on when its bad spam, but buying links and not pestering people isnt bad and thats what most of us are doing, well I know I dont pester people. Why let it bother you the internet is just really a big spam place as its all competition and some play dirty.
Because the spam goes to me and millions of others and is clutter that ruins the internet. The internet began as a place to trade stuff for free and was virtually spam free until people discovered they could trick other people with email spam. Why spam comments are bad (the list): 1. Violates most Social Networking TOS 2. Takes commercial income AWAY from companies that own the said SNS 3. Annoys most end users 4. Encourages the hacking of peoples profiles 5. Encourages the hacking of social networking software 6. Facilitates a way in which spyware and malware can be spread 7. Allows con-artist an easier way to swindle users into scams 8. Portrays internet business in an unfavorable light to those unfamiliar with it I am sure there are more but the first one alone should be enough.
My suggestions is if it bothers you, don't look at it. You can choose your friends on MySpace and other social networks, just delete the ones who bother you. Do you really think MySpace does not knwo what is happening as they are raking in the cash from advertising tio the MySpacers? If you don't like DP and they are so terrible, you have a choice, leave. DP is a open forum for people to promote their sites and share their ideas. Selling MySpace bulletins is a way for people to promote their site and get traffic. So email MySpace and report us all!
lol make a site on spam and do something to try and stop it on this site, oh and good luck if you do Dont worry about it, have a spam box on your emails and dont read the rest on the internet.
Myspace themselves started by spamming, do a background check on how they started and the company behind them. Its up to them to stop spam on their network.
I find it odd that you are trying to convince others to do things your way and yet you are rude and unpersuasive. I don't use myspace, I don't spam. So your problem is not my problem. I do have an issue when people come here and try to tell everyone else how they should do things. The idea that you come here and tell everyone that either we are with you are we are supporting the spammers is, well, been done before and is not a good way to build a coalition of support. You are mistaken when you say that we all don't think it is spam. It is. I just don't think DP is the place to stop it. Nor, do I think you have a clue what you are asking. You are doing nothing about the problem, except trying to shift the burden of protecting sites like myspace onto DP.
How am I being rude? I made a suggestion. If you dont like it then dont read it... right? isn't that the way you want me to think? Just shut up and do nothing? hmmmm odd that you want me to be quiet and not "tell" others what to do yet you post telling me what to do.. I am not asking DP to take over the burden or go on some crusuade but merely ban the selling of spam comments on social networking sites which are 99% of the time a violation of the websites TOS. And if you dont think that's right lets test your theory a bit differently. lets post over in the Google Adsense and tell people that you've found a way to force people to click on the Adsense ads and thus generating a ton of income without ever getting caught. Either there will be immediate removal of such ad or you will at least get tons of post decrying it and demanding that others report the poster and anyone who buys said service... yet it is nothing illegal right? The point is that this is the internet and sleazy tactics should not be harbored by any large webmaster site nor should they be used by any webmaster. It took us nearly 10 years to earn the public's trust for online activity and what do we do with it? We spam their myspace... genius plan guys that's sure to not backfire. As far as telling people what to do I merely made a suggestion, exactly what this forum area is about. My suggestion was to restrict the posting of certain advertising material, does DP not restrict other types of posting? Does DP allow spamming on it's forum? nay it does not and therefore this is an extremely viable request and one which I would hope DP would consider. Finally you must have missed my point where hackers are BRUTE FORCE HACKING peoples profiles so that they can sell bulletins and comments to that users friends. Sure you can choose your friends but can you choose your hackers? I am not saying you are with me or against me... although it does sorta feel that way (looks at the first few replies) demanding me to not post this here nor make my voice and opinion heard is worse than what I am asking. I merely want to see DP take a responsible role in helping guide the future of online advertising. As a real life marketer and soon to be advertising creative I dont see the sense nor do I see much benefit in spamming. Link trading, banner ads, google adsense, YPN, text-link-ads, adbrite, online classifieds, forum signatures and proper SEO are all great ways of boosting your sites traffic. I dont exactly agree with "traffic generators" because they are most commonly pop-ups/unders. But they at least are not violating an unwilling participant (website) or their rules. These selling and buying of comments violates the rights of two other entities (host website and user) for the gain of another which has always been held up by civilized society as wrong. For example if you know a band that wants to get their name out and you agree to help for a small fee that is fine. But what do you do to help? You start by posting their flyer over the flyers of a more well-known band in the area (entity one) and then decide to go into a venue in the same area to hand out flyers (entity number two). This is commonly referred to as "guerrilla street teaming" and is banned by most venues, but what can they do if there is a large outside entity facilitating it? How annoying it would get having have your staff spend most of their time removing people who were trying to get your crowd to go elsewhere. There have been lawsuits over this and most established venues and band marketing companies denounce it as a viable means... but there is always someone to do it. There is no large band advertising forum or organization advocating or facilitating this and in my experiences the number of occurrences has dropped significantly since venues began combating it. Disagree all you want on whether or not DP should lend their weight in stopping such practices, but you cannot disagree with the fact that people and webmasters who participate in this black-market of advertising are facilitating the growing amount of spam and hackers violating sites to more easily spam.
Nobody brute force hacks myspace profiles, they phish them. Their is yet to be one successful lawsuit by Myspace against people phishing profiles, that tells you the law is not so clear on that as it is email spam. Until it is blatantly illegal to do i don't think DP is doing anything wrong.
lol. try and think progressive. Jim Crow laws were legal once in the south.. stupid yes but perfectly legal. Lets try and get a bit outside the box and say "Hey this is wrong, lets try and educate our users to not do this" Is phishing much better? and yes my account (simple one word password) was brute forced. I never login through email because I am not stupid. and what happened? someone logged in and changed my password then began to post bulletins and comments to all my friend about various things from home loans to cellphones and what do you know.. I discovered the people had bought the ads on a smaller webmaster site. I changed my password to something real hard to brute force and wrote a blog about it to educate others against it. I am currently fighting a similar battle in the world of Fast Food and a trend that is spreading like wild fire known as "workplace segregation" fast food restaurants think it's great because they get cheap labor, but they are skirting th EOE laws and violating the rights of all the workers by forcing a linguistic barrier. They are also raising the risk of a messed up order, which for a person with allergies and/or lactose intolerant could have disastrous and even deadly affects. But of course no one will do anything until something bad happens.. that is how our society is. No action just reaction... which is why everything is jacked. Waiting for one major government entity to outlaw it isn't the sign of a proactive concerned organization but the actions of a group that is either blind or a willing participant in the problem. DP has nothing to lose by merely asking or even going as far as to have moderators remove such postings and in doing so are a willing participant by association (e.g. ebay in the mmorpg lawsuits and napster in the RIAA lawsuits)
Calling / referring to the people who didn't agree with you as "stupidity and naivety" and "I guess you're either all just sleazy webmasters" Hard to take you seriously after that display of business ethics and professionalism.