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Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by Shazz, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. #1
    I just lost -$2000 on the stock from (HTE)
    What are some stocks that you guys have?
     
    Shazz, Nov 19, 2007 IP
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    john_80 Well-Known Member

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    Did you get any profit from them ?

    meaby you invested 1500 , get profit = 3000 and now lost 1500 :)

    GL
     
    john_80, Nov 19, 2007 IP
  3. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    I don't do the stock market, and by the way things are starting to look I'm glad I didn't.
     
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  4. Shazz

    Shazz Prominent Member

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    No, I actually invested 15,000 and it went down like crazy... :(
    Its staying at a steady pace down there and Im scared to sell it
    Most of the time you can make money off of it.
     
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  5. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    If it was that easy everybody would do it ;)
     
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  6. Christian Little

    Christian Little Peon

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    Out of curosity, why did you invest in HTE? This is their chart on the TSX:

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    And second question, why did it take you so long to pull out? Their stock has been dropping for the past 5 months.

    A really big indicator to me is the 2 million shares that were sold on that one day in July. That was probably a mutual fund or investment company pulling out of the stock, and it all went downhill from there. Whenever you see somebody dumping 3x the average daily stock in a single trade then you really have to watch what is going on.

    But to answer your question, I tend into invest in:

    1. Mining / Exploration Companies - these companies generally stay at the same stock price for 10+ months at a time, but then when they make a huge discovery the stock doubles or triples in value overnight.
    2. Tech - I only invest in tech companies that I feel have room to grow. I.e. right now I refuse to put anything in Google even though their stock keeps going up.
    3. Utilities - Utility companies tend to grow at a steady rate, but they can get big gains if you find ones that operating in rapidly expanding cities.
     
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    megawhiz Active Member

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    #7
    do you make any profit from the stocks that you got?
     
    megawhiz, Nov 19, 2007 IP
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    #8
    It's not easy, but money can always be made in the market even during a recession. If you think you can just follow others and make money you are wrong.

    The market is just like online biz, you need to realize an opportunity and seize it before everyone else does.

    Why did you choose HTE, did you do valuations on the stock?
     
    KunkVentures, Nov 19, 2007 IP
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    If you play the stock market for the fast money it is tricky to time the market. You have to really do your research and weigh your risk/benefit before investing. It is still one of the number one ways to get rich if you know what you are doing.

    I use to play the market in my single days and overall I made good profit. My biggest loss was $6,000 on the Planet Hollywood IPO. By time I got in, it was overinflated and I did not have the resources to ride the wave for a long time. I lost that much in 1 week. However, I made twice that at about the same by timing KMart when it was hitting bankruptcy.

    It is all about the game of timing and research and you have to be able to handle the loss if you take a hit. Now I choice to maker safer investments in Mutual Funds because there are professionals who handle the investments.
     
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    Demonic Active Member

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    invest in google ftw :).
     
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  11. Shazz

    Shazz Prominent Member

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    Mostly because of the dividend it was paying. I bought at I think $25.67 I think. I put a market stop in case it goes down past $22
     
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    For any kind of long term investing you should focus on the fundamental of the company and not charts. Charts are for short term speculation. Not that there's anything wrong with speculation, I just think people often confuse speculation with investing.
     
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  13. Christian Little

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    I would agree for very long-term investing (3+ years). But if you are looking to invest in a company for say 12-24 months, then I reference the charts as well as their financial statements, press releases, and just about everything else.
     
    Christian Little, Nov 19, 2007 IP
  14. astup1didiot

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    I was thinking of looking into companies that build oil refineries since the US is going to need to produce more in the near future, anybody know a way of doing this?
     
    astup1didiot, Nov 19, 2007 IP
  15. Christian Little

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    I would imagine the major fuel producers probably have that information in their financial records/investor prospectus. So I'd go digging through Shell, for example, and look for who manufacturers their oil refineries. I'm betting that the major companies make them themselves though.
     
    Christian Little, Nov 19, 2007 IP
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    Shazz Prominent Member

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    Well you know that they can't go bankrupt or drop a whole ton which is good, but most of them are too expensive to make any profit on them.
     
    Shazz, Nov 19, 2007 IP
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    Not if you buy on margin or trade options instead:

    Shell Price on NASDAQ in Jan 2007 = $68

    On Margin
    $10,000 down + 75% margin = $40,000 = 588 shares
    Sell @ $80 in Nov 2007 = $47,070 - ($30,000 margin + $10,000 original) = $7,070 profit (minus broker fees of course)

    If you trade options you could make an even bigger profit, but a 70% return in 11 months would make me happy :) Especially considering that if I just left that money in a savings account it might amount to $500 in interest (even that's a bit high for most savings accounts).
     
    Christian Little, Nov 19, 2007 IP
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    the balance sheet is the thing to watch. :)

    i'm up 13% for the year
     
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  19. Shazz

    Shazz Prominent Member

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    I actually lost $-2750 because I sold it :eek:

    I just bought e-trade
     
    Shazz, Nov 22, 2007 IP
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    Ya, it was a good time to invest in google when the stocks were cheaper.
     
    ForgottenCreature, Nov 22, 2007 IP