Steroids, Would you use em?

that is not from steroids, that is from using an injectable oil known as synthol

 

maybe no one said yes to the poll because it mentions beating wives

I think a lot of people use steroids in moderation with very little side effects, but like anything there is always people who will go over board. Persoanlly I have tendonitis so I can't lift weights seriously anymore, so steroids wouldn't really fit with the little workouts I do now.

I think a lot of people who answered the poll don't work out, many probably have never worked out seriously. You could probably make a poll who lift weights 4 times a week and runs 5 miles afterward. I bet there would be too many yeses , but it doesn't make a workout routine bad.

 

@ Ferret.

Dan did the poll the way he did as an obvious attack on me, one other person with first hand knowledge on the situation knows it to be true as well, they can comment if they so choose to.

As far as illegal steroids I actually agree I am not for them myself. I bust my ass off in the gym, 8 sessions a week, plus during my cardio cutting phases I do 1-2 hours a day on my bike, stepper, eliptical, etc at home.

There are many things that can be considered a 'steroid' the main thing is are we talking about any substance even natural ones you eat on a daily basis and vitamins that can and are considered a steroid, or are we talking about illegal steroids? The author of this poll never stated this, yet his own blog and his own words has brought up a supplement that was sold legally which is considered a 'designer steroid' I have been up front about this product, yet the author of this poll has continued now for weeks to attack me on it.

I think it's a case of jealousy, some of the 'genetics' for building muscle mass and getting into shape, others do not. 99.9% of my progress was made without the 'superdrol' I took 1/2 bottle about 3 weeks ago on a cycle, for my size it wasn't even worth it as I should have used at least the entire bottle if not 2 bottles for a full 'cycle'.

That's the story, believe what you want people..

Illegal steroids, yes I agree they are BS. Supplements on the other hand that are sold legally I have no problem using and will continue to use 'legal' supplements. I bust my ass off every week, much more so than the casual gym rat, with supplements or not, that's the simple and plain truth.

 

Everything in this thread is media propaganda.

I run a bodybuilding website and I'm well versed in everything surrounding it, steroids, supplements, training ... it's all one in the same.

Steroids aren't an evil, and most people who use them don't have the intentions of being 280lbs @ 6' and 7% bodyfat to pick up chicks. HGH, IGF1 ... compounds in the first few posts are brand new to the market and have unreal capabilities in short amounts of time. IGF1 is the new anti-aging, fat-losing, muscle-building compound on the market and it's unbelieveable in it's uses.

All the 'roid rage' you talk about is 90% mental, and the people who get it are young bucks thinking they're on top of the world adding 2lbs a week of solid mucle gains, sad thing is, at the end of the cycle they are still only pushing 180lbs.

Steroids aren't an evil, when someone who is educated uses them it has great potential and excellent results. When a moron uses them, that's when shit gets hairy.


About Greg Valentino and synthol ... he falls under the 'moron' category. Go pick up a copy of 'Muscular Development' and read his column, he's a crazy guy who's pretty damned funny. According to him it wans't synthol anyway, it was spot injecting dense compounds.

 

I just thought I would add this picture

 

Now theres an educated man ! I tip my hat to you sir

and Ferret thats just fuckin funny shit

 

Unless I was a professional athlete, I don't see a major reason to take them.

If you just want to get buff you might as well no natural and not get messed up on 'roids. Getting buff isn't that big of a deal.

 

My sentiments exactly my friend

 

You're seriously misinformed, my friend.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/..._uids=16733985&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/..._uids=16679978&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

More ...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/..._uids=15579201&query_hl=6&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/..._uids=15899737&query_hl=6&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/..._uids=11743571&query_hl=6&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/..._uids=11153743&query_hl=6&itool=pubmed_docsum

 

Steroids in the sense of illegal and not sold over the counter are dangerous as Hell.
I recently saw a documentary about Steroids and people wh have used them since they are now facing the consequences of it.

One guy explained due to his steroids usage he has put himself in the position that he has had some major physical problems. Such as a stroke and a hart attack.

He explained that taking Steroids is like planting little seeds that will pop up decades later and will/can cause serious damage even for using it just once.

Taking over the counter supplements is just a additive to the lifestyle one has adopted. And providing extra energy and fuel that the human body can not provide through the regular intake of food and fluids.
The human body is not designed to do extensive training and needs the extra nutrition supplied by supplements.

Supplements are taken by athletes all over the world and is considdered normal and part of the game.
And i don't mean illegal doping but supplements adding extra proteine and creatine and such.

I would never take a substance that is used on horses or shit like that but some people see no immediate danger in it and shoot themself up with shit resulting in placing oneself in great danger.

Would i use steroids? Hell no!
would i use supplements? Hell Yes!

 

No, unless it is necessary (doctor prescription).

 

ic someone voted for the wife beating option

 

Sounds like someone had a bad injection over health problems related to the use of these compounds.

Those symptoms sound VERY like injecting into a blood vessel. Or he didn't get bloodwork done or any routine medical checkups before starting, and the Clenbuterol added to problems he already had.

No sane AAS user in their right mind would use for 5 months straight. Noone. Sounds like a dumb kid more than anything (back to idiotic people using strong substances make problems, not the educated!)

14 weeks, MAX, and that's for Testosterone Enanth/Cyp -- safe long half life compounds, not Deca!

I can tell you straight up that they don't list what he used, probally insane doseages of compounds that don't bind well when used together. On top of that, the Ephedra didn't help any heart problems. Sounds like he drank on cycle when they bring up liver injury, or didn't follow protocol!!! Point simple, another stupid user.

I've never read a cycle log with Danazol included in it.

Read your articles a little better before you post 'em ... That was what they did the study for, arterial structure and function, and found no significant abnormalities.

The rest of the results they listed can be induced by improper diet. Lipoprotein chelesterol and other healthy chelesterols go down while on cycle and following proper PCT protocol, 99.9% of the time there are no problems afterwards. Every educated user I know will tell you the same thing.



forum.bodybuilding.com/ anabolicminds.com

Thousands of people read and post in that forum, and none have had the problems you describe, nor anyone at my board, nor anyone I've ever talked to.

 

Who was in that documentary? Sounds like the one they did on Greg Valentino himself.

 

I noticed that too lol

 

Whatever goals you have in life, whether it's to put on weight or take it off or to be a successful affiliate or whatever...there is no substitute for hard work and dedication. Steroids, diet pills, other gimicks...these are all the easy way out.

 

Oh of course, and I never meant to intend that steroids would bring you to any goal effectively. But once a certain point is reached, a persons genetic max, and they want to continue, steroids are a "safe" alternative when they know what they are doing and putting into their body.

 

It's just strange that those who defend steroid use use them themselves.

Unless if you've never used them Sholiz.

I do agree that anything done with a little education behind it so that its done in a smart way is definitely a must but hasnt it been proven that years later the effects occur ?

 

Outside of professional athletes and pro bodybuilders, why would anybody want to be bigger than their "genetic max"? Pick up chicks?