Spinning Articles = Spinning Wheels

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by GameFriends.com, May 13, 2010.

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    Credentials posted at end of thread: Are you confused whether you should rewrite your articles and resubmit them to article directories? Well, chances are because you keep hearing about the greatness of article spinning. Basically the idea is to take an already written article, regurgitate it, and resubmit it to the same article directories in hopes it passes as unique enough.

    We all know it, but just repeat it aloud. You are taking a pre-existing article, butchering it, and resubmitting it. If you want this to work, you will not get it to pass on the major directories such as ezinearticles. Just think about it. If you could just respin articles all day, you would honestly never have to write a unique article again. This of course is rubbish.

    You can simply submit the original, EXACT same article to many directories and bookmark it. This isn't duplicate content penalty (and very white hat) as you have written a great article and feel it is important to be viewed by the masses.

    Sure, there will be some out there to sell an article rewritter software, but imagine if a human being sat down to read what you have submitted? What happens 1000 submissions in when they finally realize what you are up to? Ban hammer...bye bye 1k links and months of respinning.

    The longterm solution is to write the best article possible and submit the exact same version throughout the internet. When there is breaking news you don't feel the need to have someone change the word hurricane to typhon to pass your duplicate content filter. The same is true of really great, informative articles (which is what you should be writing.)

    The ROI on spinning your articles is insanely low, as the top directories don't want anything to do with it.

    To prove you can have success with one great, or at least interesting article is Google "Video games are man's greatest invention" (article I wrote awhile ago). You will see over 1k results for that one article. This means other directories have accepted it, picked it up, and promoted it. There was no need for me to respin this article dozens, or hundreds of times.

    Most importantly, the longest part of article marketing is NOT writing the article(s), but distributing them. In fact 5% of the time is probably spent writing the actual article. If you want to automate the submission process, more power to you, but automating writing is just being lazy. Stop spinning, start researching, and writing one great article, then mass promote it.
     
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  2. Vekseid

    Vekseid Peon

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    I tried spinning once. I think what it's generally used for is automated intradomain linking schemes to fake unique content across them, rather than actually getting high quality networks to pick them up. I think Google found one copy of the article I spun - nowhere near worth it, considering the sacrificed readability.
     
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    samdar Well-Known Member

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    Good write up. However spinning will not yield you great results. At least in my opinion, so I have not tried it. Search engines especially Google have grown to such a extent that they are very clever in identifying spun articles. At least if you want to spin, keep up to a minimum level. This is just my opinion and 2 cents.
     
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    Maybe you just haven't come across the right type of spinner, since it is perfectly feasible to spin an article 100 times and create 100 unique, readable articles which are worthy of any article directory including Ezines.

    Create one article (30 mins), spin it 100 times (30 mins) = 1 hour to create 100 unique articles. It's a no brainer.

    IMO writing high quality articles just to submit them to directories is a waste. I've said it before and I'll say it again - article directories are a dumping ground for cheap, rehashed articles. Save the best articles for your own site and submit the mediocre ones to directories.
     
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    I quite agree to some of what you said. But spinning articles is done to get everything done faster. If you are into article marketing you must avoid having duplicate content. I use easyarticlespinner.net for my spinning task and it works pretty fine. No garbage articles at all.
     
    april05, May 18, 2010 IP
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    Fab article. I support is 100%. Rewriting articles isnt the way to go. Too much fake stuff out there and we need to stop it. I;m sure google know about this a can spot rewritten articles a mile away. (I hope so anyway)
     
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    If you think about it, if you were to do the same thing in university you would be caught for sure. You may not be caught immediately for spinning, but when google combs the index your plagiarism will be evident.
     
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    Spinning or gathering information from sources and reporting? You want to keep the original content around 33% or less(have heard numbers like 27%), or you can run into problems with Google. Defining a Google problem in this case is the article does not maintain/has low search position, or does not get listed at all.
     
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    I'm getting great results through spinning articles! I got to eZines to find my articles I want. Put it into the best spinner, re-write every paragraph once, every sentence within every paragraph 3 times and then go through the words and have 3 synonyms for each word. I get 100% uniqueness every time. It does take me a couple of hours but I get 100 unique articles. Spinning is evolving very quickly and those that say it's a waste of time don't know how to do it properly.

    I can present 5 articles to google all spun from one article and they could never know they are the same. Human review would be difficult. Advanced spinning is undetectable. Spin paragraphs, drop sentences, drop paragraphs, spin images, bullet points, html, colours, urls, blockquote, and so on. No search engine can tell this. What's more with some backlinking I end up above the writer of the original content!
     
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    I have to agree that the article distribution is more time consuming that making 1 or a hundred articles, I think there are some softwares to make it easier but at the end, Google will soon or later stop this kind of stuff.
     
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    The bottom line is if you have unique interesting content, it will do better than a fake article full of fluff. Appeal to the reader and you will gain more than simply trying to exploit the system.
     
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    To be honest, not every one can write high quality article. And I am sure many successful online marketer can't even write one good article :) .

    Article spinners can work great!

    BTW, just tried to spin your two first paragraphs by our new article spinner and got below raw text before adjustment
    Good, uh? :D
     
    Mr.Submit, May 19, 2010 IP
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    imo,the best spinner is good, some people use it to creat article,and you can build more and more blog,then link your site to those blog,then you can get more links to promotion your site.
     
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    Hello fellow DP members,

    I am using articleprofit .....working wonders for me.
     
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    Hello DP members,

    I am using Magic article re writer. But I rewrite manually to an article which is already approved by ezine and produce number of unique and copyscape passed articles.
    The rewrite articles are easily approved by ezinearticles. I provide the service in warriorforum.com
     
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    GameFriends.com Peon

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    Your first point is it's hard to write a quality article.

    How the hell does spinning an article make it higher quality?

    And no...it can end up pretty dumb with the spinner.

    Read the below: Shows how stupid this spinning shit becomes according to your own spinner:
    Credentials posted at end of ribbon. Are you jumbled whether you should rewrite your articles and feedback them to article directories? Substantially prospects are because you hold on trying about grandness of article spinning. Fundamentally the musical theme is to take an already written article, reproduce it, and feed back it to the like article directories in hopes it dies as unique sufficiency.

    We all know it, but just now double it loudly. You are taking a preexistent clause, slaughtering it, and resubmitting it. If you require this to put to work, you will not get it to pass on the major directories such as ezinearticles. Just think about it. If you could exactly respin articles all day, you would aboveboard never have to pen a unique article once more. This course is rubbish.

    While it's not the worst two paragraphs I have ever read it completely takes a shit on the original quality....and what's the point of making a good article worse?
     
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    Awesome, thank you for shedding light on your service in this thread; I appreciate it.
     
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    You need to see this in the perspective of the person who wants to do article marketing. From your post it looks like you enjoy writing and posting it in article directories and is happy about the fact that visitors are reading your content and enjoying it. As long as that is the end result you are looking at it you seems to have attained the objective. But what many article marketers look for while doing article marketing is promoting their product or website too, else for what do you write an article and submit it to article sites, what is the objective?.

    Now from SEO point of view if backlinks are to be counted then one needs to submit unique content each time to each article directory, else google only picks up the latest or best article from the lot and grant the backlink count. If you submit 100 different articles to 100 different article sites, then it is 100 backlinks, but if you submit 100 same article to 100 different article sites, then it might be few backlinks and worst it might end up giving only one backlink, so from a advertiser/webmaster point of view it is a utter waste of time.

    Regarding spinning, i accept your view point that many article rewriter software makers do the drumroll in such a way that you end up believing that each time each article becomes unique, there are two methods of spinning, synonym level spinning and sentence level spinning, though none of the outputs will be enjoyed by the visitors as the theme of the article remains same, but the bots enjoy them as they are unique and fresh content each time they go searching for food (read content). Google has confirmed many times that they have the technology to catch up with synonym level spinning, but their is yet a technology to be invented to write sentence level spinning, it still needs human intervention and brain to work for that, so we also assume that their is yet a technology to catch up with the unique versions produced from those spinning. Results have also shown that these articles do get their due worth as they are not just gibberish but human readable and enjoyable content which is fresh too. So branding all types of spinning as worthless is not something which you can claim unless you have evidence to prove so.

    Ezinearticles has a very niche technology to catch up with copied content even before the article is submitted (even if it is synonym spun), excellent work, but from my personal experience they are yet to catch up with sentence level spinning and i believe it will not be possible in the near future too, even if they do so, they will have to do manual search for each sentence in the article to find duplicates + they might end up rejecting lots of original articles too in the process, in any case, why should they bother when they are getting unique content, punchline is "unique content".
     
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  20. Mr.Submit

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    I don't say that spinning article make higher quality, but that spinning article can work well for online marketing.

    No spinner can work fully automatic, but always needs human interventions.

    Look at this after minute adjustment:
    And see final version of spun article
     
    Mr.Submit, May 21, 2010 IP