South Korea-U.S. Combined Command Forces Raise Attack Warning Level

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Listen to what you guys are saying. Did you know that NK has the most sofisticated ground to air defense system in the world? That would be the true nightmare scenario as China watches from the background as our jets are picked apart. If we attack NK from the air we are just speeding up the process of china becoming the next global superpower. that would be crazy. Im not even talking about NK's nuclear capabilities. Thats another issue alltogether.

 

Our airforce would destroy the North Korean airforce. It's left to be seen how efective the North Korean air defense is. Most of our F15 fleet is scheduled to be replaced with the f35 in any case.

However, the US has moved F22s to the area. Should the North Koreans shoot one down, the wreckage could prove to be of vaule to China.

 

The B-2 is a stealth bomber. NK doesn't have the tech to track and destroy the B-2. The F-22 is a stealth fighter, they don't have the tech to track and destroy it.

The B-2 also flies higher than AA emplacements can track, let alone hit. We have enough of the B-2's to destroy their AA emplacements quite quickly. Giving the rest of our Air Force Air Superiority and our groundforces close air support. It would be a nightmare.

And if you had seen the plans for an invasion of NK (any of them, even ones discarded) you would understand there are many, many ways to do it, and many of them are quite creative in nature. Remember, the US military has trained in gurilla and counterinsurgency tactics for the last 8 years. Many conventional land units now posses the skills an knowledge to wage a gurilla war, as well as a conventional land war.

There are many scenarios. Some show a quick defeat of NK, some show a slow progressive one over times up to 7-10 years. None I have heard of show a defeat of the US.

The only thing is, the US forces are stretched thin. And are beginning to grow wary from years of deploying every other year for a year+ at a time.

The biggest variable is whether China helps the US (to keep trade happening), helps NK (to help a brother commy), or sits idly by (again, to keep trade happening, but, not alienate their brother commy, IMO most likely scenario).

 

With any air attack the North Koreans will respond on the ground. That's where the trouble starts. The US and South Korea cannot maintain alert 24/7 and it's too easy for the North Koreans to make idle threats.

 

they have the bomb. that ends the attack option.

 

Not if we go nuclear on the first strike.

 

in another word. if we are scared enough to become as crazy as we think he is. i do not think so. we should just leave him alone. not pay any attention to him. you know in subway when there is a crazy guy acting violently rhe best strategy is to not look at him or talk to him. let him be. nobody tries to reason with him and only another crazy guy would go and starts a fight with him. not to say that if he actually attacks another country we can not help, but all this talk and attention just makes things worse

 

I always just ignore the crazy guy waving a gun around too.

 

That's what they said about Iraq's air defence system until stealth bomber's and cruise missles took it apart in hours. N.Korea so small that you could release missles on target without hardly entering their air space. The fact of matter is that the U.S. air superiority has hardly been challenged in decades and everyone knows it. No radar based system has taken down a stealth bomber yet - one stealth fighter was taken down over Yugoslavia by chance ground fire - ONE in a couple of decades of operations.

Its not N.Korea's air defence system that is the problem - its is nuke potential and its tunnels under the 38th parrallel

As for nukes meaning no attack - it raises the stakes - it doesn't mean no attack - it means you have to attack heavy and hard straight away - besides at this stage we are talking about small nukes the size of Hiroshima - tiny by todays standards of nuke, but still deadly - thats why N.Korea's missle sites would need taking out asap.

 

Being realistic, anyone disputing America's power against just about any other country is just being silly.

 

or you can shoot and he can shoot back. the fact that he might kill you in retaliation is just irrelevant.or it is ok if you lose your eyes if you paralyze him. that is a good way of looking at it also

 

Or, you don't let the crazy person have the gun in the first place. Hmm, boy doesn't that make more sense than letting the crazy person wave his gun around threatening people - just hoping he does not do something?

 

this crazy person has a gun already. i pointed that out earlier. a big one at that

 

Iran doesn't yet. The world should prevent the crazy Mullahs from getting one.

As for NK, someone should try to take their gun away - or take out the crazy person.

 

this is not about iran. the question about iran is what is the best way to prevent them from having a nuclear weapon. i might disagree with you on the course of action but i do not want the iranian regime nuclear armed. heck i do not want any country nuclear armed.
as for the NK it takes me back to my original comment.

 

It's all hype. Even if Iran had nuclear weapons, they wouldn't do anything. They pose no real threat to the west, the media and fear-mongers just like to say they do - often quoting the misinterpreted statement by Ahmadinejad.

 

The chances that Obama, Pelosi and the Clintons will stop Iran and North Korea going nuclear are zero.

 

lol if you think any AA system in the world right now can top US Air Superiority you are sadly mistaken. Stealth bombers fly higher than any SAM site can reach that is in operation today. Not only that, how can you hit what you don't even know is there?

 

Dude, that picture is classic. It looks almost exactly like what I imagined the party to look like after Obama's last address to congress. The only difference in how I imagined it was they were all jerking each other off.