Soros attacks US pro-Israel lobby

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    · Group accused of helping to suppress debate
    · Financier criticises Bush policy on Palestinians

    Ed Pilkington in New York
    Wednesday April 18, 2007
    The Guardian


    The financier and philanthropist George Soros has entered the debate about US policy on Israel, accusing the Bush administration of adopting a hopeless strategy towards the Palestinians partly because of the influence wielded in Washington by a pro-Israel lobby.
    In an article in the New York Review of Books, he accuses the Washington-based American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac) of being "remarkably successful" in suppressing criticism of US-Israeli policy towards the Palestinians.

    Mr Soros, a billionaire investor who rose to prominence when he was seminal in forcing the pound out of the European exchange rate mechanism on Black Wednesday in 1992, posits his argument on a critique of the prevailing view within the Israeli and US governments that the Palestinian unity government cannot be recognised because it includes Hamas. His argument that this amounts to a policy blunder is contentious, but it is his comments on how such an approach came to be dominant within Washington that are being seen as the most controversial.
    Mr Soros criticised Aipac, America's largest pro-Israel lobby, which works with Democrats and Republicans in Congress and has 100,000 members nationally.

    Mr Soros, who is Jewish, argues Aipac has exceeded its mission by intervening in debates over Iran, the failed appointment of the neocon John Bolton as US ambassador to the UN, and its earlier enthusiastic support of the Iraq invasion.

    He also says the group has had a dampening effect on debate about Israel and the Palestinians because it has "gone on the offensive, accusing the so-called progressive critics of Israel's policies of fomenting anti-Semitism and endangering the very existence of the Jewish state".

    In his article, Mr Soros also says that Alvin Rosenfeld, writing on behalf of the American Jewish Committee, argues that to condemn Israeli action without historic and political context that might account for such actions is unacceptable. "Rosenfeld resorts, without any personal knowledge of the people he attacks, to primitive accusations of self-hatred, lumping all these critics together as people who are 'proud to be ashamed to be Jews'."

    Prof Rosenfeld, who teaches in the English and Jewish studies departments of Indiana University, said yesterday that his writing had been misrepresented. He had never used the term "self-hatred", he said, and the "proud to be ashamed" quote came from the English lawyer and writer Anthony Julius, who had been referring to other individuals. "That he could suggest that a Prof Rosenfeld sitting in his office in a midwest college has the power to stifle the free speech of a George Soros is simply absurd," Prof Rosenfeld said.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2059576,00.html
     
    ablaye, Apr 18, 2007 IP
  2. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    yawn...

    What are the Jews going to have to do so you stop hating them so much?
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    I should ask you the same question. You keep posting threads against muslims every day.
    I guess you find it ok to insult and post hateful comments about muslims. But jews, there are the innoncent victims. They've never done harm to anyone. They are angels, right???
    We should all roll over and play dead for the jews.
     
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    KalvinB Peon

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    I post threads against Muslims?

    I post threads questioning Islam. I post threads about specific Muslims. But I don't recall posting threads against Muslims.

    Maybe you can enlighten us.
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #5
    Being aware of what people like you think, believe and do, is not hatred. The actual hatred is in the quran, which instructs muslims not to befriend Christians and Jews; instructs muslims to fight and kill the non-believers, etc. It's in the hadith, where it says the rock and tree will say "oh muslim, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."

    That's the hatred. Being aware of it is not. You may get away with reverse-victimization elsewhere, but the dirty kaffir here are not your normal infidel ;)
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    Same here. I don't post threads against jews. I post threads showing the negative influence that the jewish lobby has in this country. I post threads about specific zionists and their supporters, AIPAC, Wolfowitz, Richard Perl, Doug Feith, that Ariel Sharon hog, etc...
    But I don't recall posting threads against jews.
     
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    It could be said that you aren't an anti-semite.

    But that would require ignoring your posts accusing people of being "zionists" and "jews."

    Notice how the people who talk about Muslims never accuse people of being Muslim?

    And yet you accuse people of being "Jews" and "Zionists" if you don't like what they say.

    That's what makes you a racist and irrelavent.
     
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    ash1 Active Member

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    is soros an anti-semite?

    why make these claims all sudden
     
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    KalvinB Peon

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    George Soros is an idiot for many reasons.
     
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    He is not an anti-semite. He is jewish himself. Note that all jews are zionists. Jews are ok in general. The zionists are the scumbags.
     
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    Soros is a Jew, so how can he be called a anti-semite?
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    Only zionists would say the kind of things you, gtech and the rest of your hate crew are saying.
    I don't hide the fact that I am muslim. I am a proud muslim and I love my religion.
     
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    basicly semite= People of middle eastern ancestry = Arabs and Jews
     
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    You also don't hide the fact that you hate Israel, Jews and America. :rolleyes:
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    I don't hate jews. I don't hate America.
    I just hate those scumbags of AIPAC and the other zionist warmongers that are pushing for war in the middle east.

    Instead of inventing lies about me, point me to a thread where I said that I hate jews or America.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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  17. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Carter is bought and paid for by the Arab lobby and Arab leaders around the world. Heh, and you think us infidels don't know that?
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    Oh really??? And how do you that???
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    I don't do it myself. I'm not an Arab who has a self-interest in Carter rewriting history.

    However, here is the list I've covered before with you, since you seem to have a temporary loss of cabin pressure:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26045
     
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    You never cease to amaze me, you and your other racist zionists. Whenever someone says something about Israel or zionist lobby in the US, you and your bunch switch to attack mode and start slandering the person.
    You do not even try disprove the facts because you know you can't.
     
    ablaye, Apr 20, 2007 IP