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Someone farted at MSN.

Discussion in 'Bing' started by Web Gazelle, May 25, 2006.

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    I think someone over at MSN search must have farted last night. I am seeing terrible results. Anyone else seeing big changes for their area of expertise? If anyone can find an announcement or something about an algo update, please post it. Thanks.
    SEMrush
     
    Web Gazelle, May 25, 2006 IP
    SEMrush
  2. MatthewN

    MatthewN Well-Known Member

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    A few searches for me have dropped a few places but nothing too terrible.
     
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  3. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    I was #1 for a certain search term in my sig that is colored orange. Now the site seems to be gone. There are also many other terms that had the same thing happen. I really liked my extra 200 to 300 referrals MSN was giving me. :(
     
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    andheresjohnny Well-Known Member

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    I was just checking my main keywords ... the ones that disappeared from the first page 2 weeks ago.

    For some of those keywords, the top 10 or 20 spots are now taken by the same site.

    Again, it's the multiple keyword-stuffed subdomain names and keyword-stuffed directory names from the same site.

    h**p://keyword1.keyword.com
    h**p://keyword2.keyword.com
    h**p://keyword3.keyword.com

    or

    h**p://www.keyword.com/keyword1/
    h**p://www.keyword.com/keyword2/
    h**p://www.keyword.com/keyword3/


    Didn't we just go through this crap several months ago?
     
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  5. MatthewN

    MatthewN Well-Known Member

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    That is rough! Havent seen anything that dramatic happen here :S I am sure others will chime in soon with details.
     
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  6. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I am seeing KW stuffed domain names taking over for the search terms that I used to show up well for. Everyone make sure to tell msn that the new algo sucks. ;)
     
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    mahmood Guest

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    This has been MSN's algo for at least the last 1 and a half year. I guess other webmasters have been starting to notice that and the more MSN gets important the more we see these type of keyword-in-domain websites.

    As the result of this algo we would probably see more and more specific web sites for example instead of a site that discusses all video games we are going to see numerous sites that each discuss a specific video game with names such as nuntindogame.com

    If we give all factors in seo a number of 100, this is how I think it would be destributed on MSN algo

    Keyword-stuffed-domain alone gets 30
    Back links 25
    On page optimisation 25
    Others 20

    If your competitor has a keyword-stuffed-domain and they know 2 and 2 in SEO, then you'r busted.

    .
     
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  8. thewindmaster

    thewindmaster The Man with the Plan

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    I ran into some serious problems today.

    I have one site go from 1st to 6, 1st to 11, and 1st to 16, for 3 major keywords.

    Had another site drop 3rd to 5th
    Another from 30th to 79th
     
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  9. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    OK.. But there was definately a shift in SERPs and some sort of algo change. I am talking about ranking on page one for several terms when I checked yesterday. More than half of those are now gone today. One term I ranked for at number 1 yesterday is now not even top 50.
     
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    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    May not be MSN's fault but the spammer who bumped you for your terms.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    woops... excuse me....

    pppppffffttttt...........
     
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    andheresjohnny Well-Known Member

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    I agree that there was an algo change, or rollback or something. And it's widespread .. at least among half-a-dozen unrelated keywords that I track.

    In these cases, yesterday's top 10 or so ranking sites have been scattered to other pages. If they can be found at all.
     
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    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    It just means I need to find new spamming methods. ;)
     
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    ServerUnion Peon

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    I have noticed a lot of terms that I have ranked one the first page for years go under this week. Not even on the boards anymore. This is for multiple sites.

    I do see this every month or so (they do come back after a day), but not for all the keywords on multiple sites.
     
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    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    I hope it is temporary like the last time.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    Aren't you the one who "owns" MSN? :D

    I noticed a couple of days last week where things were all over, but last I looked where back again.
     
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    This morning I checked on a site which showed 110 links in MSN - not great, but an improvement over where they were last week. Two hours later and I looked again and it had tanked to 19. At the same time another site which had less than 20 links in MSN had climbed to over 300 - for no real reason that I could see. Very strange results but I've no doubt it will all even out in a couple of days.
     
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    Glad to hear it's not just my sites!

    Massive drops over about 20 sites... with keyword stuffed domains. ;)

    Seems at the same time, some secondary keywords are ranking a little bit higher. I'll have to check and see if these are interior pages... hopefully it won't last long enough for me to do that.
     
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    Carnt say I have had any change here dude.
     
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    Iam seeing the same thing. I was awake when this happened. It was about 3AM pacific time. I could still refresh and see my site , however, every third refresh was the new results.

    Two of my websites I have been working on like crazy for the last 3 days dropped out of serps. (Top 25 pages). They where both on page 2 near the top so I was workingon them hard to push them to page one.

    This really bites. I hope its temporary.
     
    adrian1386, May 25, 2006 IP