Some Kind of Update Just Started

Discussion in 'Google' started by markhutch, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. williamjack

    williamjack Notable Member

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    #61
    i do see some chages in pr but after some time they were showing the old pr is it mare fluctuations or? i don't know.
     
    williamjack, Jan 17, 2006 IP
  2. mitchandre

    mitchandre Peon

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    #62
    williamjack: Yes, read the whole thread before posting. :)
     
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  3. Cyclops

    Cyclops sensei

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    #63
    Well my sites PR5 has stuck for over 24 hours now so an update is definately happening.
     
    Cyclops, Jan 18, 2006 IP
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    sebastianrs Active Member

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    #64
    too bad none of my sites has been effected by the potential update (or whatever it is called) yet.
     
    sebastianrs, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  5. TheHoff

    TheHoff Peon

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    #65
    I see some of the BigDaddy test SERPS filtering through to normal datacentres, including 66.102.7.104

    Terms that I follow closely and have been ranked 15 to 20 with are now showing up in the top 10 on that DC.. as they have been on the BigDaddy DCs for a while now. The results jump in and out.. also on this one: 216.239.37.104

    McDar dance tool might not show new results right away; reload a few times and they show. Regular G users are getting a taste of the new order.
     
    TheHoff, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  6. SportsOutlaw

    SportsOutlaw Active Member

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    #66
    Rather than start a new thread, I will just respond to this one. :)

    After having googlebots storm my site for almost 3 days straight, I am suddenly showing a drop from 12,500 pages indexed to 527.

    This is the lowest I have seen in a long,long, time. My forum has close to 34,000 posts, I have regular html pages, a news site (blog), and a directory for links.

    527 pages in insane - I hope this is very temporary.
     
    SportsOutlaw, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  7. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #67
    This hasn't been anything new, at least from what I have experienced anyway. G is definately getting alot tougher to get fully indexed in.
     
    dcristo, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  8. SportsOutlaw

    SportsOutlaw Active Member

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    #68
    its new to me for the simple fact that the pages dropped to something lower than they have been for a long, long, time. '

    Dropped to 511 now
     
    SportsOutlaw, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  9. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #69
    I had a very similar thing happen to me, with a similar no. of forum posts and drop in pages.
     
    dcristo, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  10. Cyclops

    Cyclops sensei

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    #70
    Not new to me either I recently had a site go from 89,000 pages to 515.

    My Forum can go from 100 to 100k pages and back again, usually changes every quarter.

    Other sites I have are the same, the page count according to Googles api tool can vary between 100 and 100k.....it's been happening to my sites for over a year now.
    Its a similar story with backlinks. They can vary from 0 to 5k on Google while Yahoo and MSN report in excess of 100k links for most of my sites.
     
    Cyclops, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  11. tstaut

    tstaut Active Member

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    #71
    My forum has over 120K posts and dropped from 16K indexed pages to less than 1K on the Big Daddy datacenters :(
     
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  12. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #72
    One has to ask why is G taking a dislike to forums? You would have thought G would love em, with forums always delivering fresh unique content...
     
    dcristo, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  13. markhutch

    markhutch Peon

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    #73
    If I had to make a guess it would be because of signature links. Seems Google doesn't like anything that creates URL links that can somehow be manipulated. Matt Cutts himself said they (Google) only want to see natural linkage from people that believe a site is worth linking to without any other kind of motive.
     
    markhutch, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  14. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #74
    I hear ya, and feel they have already been weighing down forum links for some time now, to implement that doesn't have to mean not fully indexing sites though.
     
    dcristo, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  15. markhutch

    markhutch Peon

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    #75
    In the past Google has had a reputation of shooting first and asking questions later when it comes to things like this. Maybe they've changed, but I still remember the old "PR 0" days when a webmaster was guilty until proven innocent. They have changed that policy since then, but their whole system is based on good linkage and if something doesn't feel right to them, they may just throw the baby out with the bath water, if you know what I mean?
     
    markhutch, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  16. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #76
    Is it because something doesn't feel right to them... or because their systems need improving on? I don't think good linkage is the problem here.
     
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  17. markhutch

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    #77
    Good linkage isn't a problem. I just think they don't see URL links within a forum as good linkage, that's all. In the past it would have been very easy for them to just exclude links in things like 'guestbooks', but instead they just banned sites that had too many links from them. Sure it should be easy to just ignore those kinds of links, but in the past they have just banned sites who's links appeared there.
     
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  18. Cyclops

    Cyclops sensei

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    #78
    It's got nothing to do with Signature links, as I said my Forums pages have been yo-yoing around for over a year and take a look, a lot of the pages left still contain signature links.

    As for Mutt Cutts, hes full of it, too many people read way too much into what he writes.
     
    Cyclops, Jan 20, 2006 IP
  19. SportsOutlaw

    SportsOutlaw Active Member

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    #79
    I still think an update has started ;)
     
    SportsOutlaw, Jan 21, 2006 IP
  20. Cyclops

    Cyclops sensei

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    #80
    So do I, the PR of some my sites is going up and down on a daily basis, I know it probably relates to different datacentres but a spread ranging from 3 to 5 or 4 to 6 has never happened before.
     
    Cyclops, Jan 21, 2006 IP