Solving Energy Problems through Innovaion | Your Car can run on Water!

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    Yeah! Water Powered Car... :)

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Stan Meyer's Dune Buggy that ran on water. Hydrogen/Oxygen fuel in an Internal Combustion Engine motor. On board electrolysis, no hydrogen tanks, no bombs on-board, just water. (1998) It ran 100 miles per gallon! [/FONT]

    Water Powered Cars or Hydrogen/Oxygen Powered Cars, using 100% water as fuel is real. By splitting water by electrolysis and creating hydrogen/oxygen gas, you can replace gasoline...

    Stanley had created history, when he modified his dune buggy to run on water, any water, be it sewage, sea water, just about anything that has H2O...

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    I recommend watching his Dune Buggy Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIgOn1kRw5s

    Unfortunately, Stanley was poisoned in his home town. Just like him, many inventors working on this tech have been killed or have disappeared.

    Stanley's struggle and his Tech
    Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP9DooV_mDk
    Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD6We_WhfEA&feature=user

    Stanley worked very hard to market his invention. For 1500$ a piece, anyone could modify an existing vehicle to run on Water... 100 miles a Gallon of water... :)

    But since he is no more, the free people of the world have a responsibility to make sure his work does not die away. Here you can [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Download all of Stan's writings, circuits, etc.

    Sources:

    http://waterpoweredcar.com/
    http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html

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  2. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Interesting article, would like to see if I can replicate what he is doing, I am an engineer by training so hopefully I can do my bit and hopefully I won't be poisoned :)
     
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    actually hydrogen is much safer than pertol and id rather be in a crash with a hydrogen than a petrol car...

    the inventor was poisoned?? damn that sucks if its true...
     
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    Water 4 Gas is one of the hottest Clickbank offers out there right now. I get spam about it constantly.
     
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    I haven't really done any research on that, but compressed hydrogen combined with oxygen is a lethal mixture. But if they can settle the safety aspects, it is definitely much cleaner than petrol as the byproducts would be steam.

     
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    You can run a car on horse crap too if you put a digestor on it and extract the methane that results from its decomposition, but the most important thing it's wether the process is efficient or not. And it's not. both in the case of horse crap and water powered cars. The problem with water powered cars is that they need metal hydrides to pull the hydrogen out of the water. So you can consider the metal hydrides to be the fuel. You can read more about it: http://techreport.com/discussions.x/14939
     
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    That may be a solution to our fuel problem if the safety issue can be solved.
     
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    The process is known as Biomass. It is a god source of energy, provided you have a lot of horses around.. :D

    The process created by Stanley Meyer is extremely efficient, producing hundreds of percent more energy than is supplied to split hydrogen.

    I have read that metal hydrites are electropositive, and hence act as a sponge to store hydrogen. Maybe they can be used as electrodes in generating hydrogen by cracking water at a faster pace. But I don't know why you think they are a problem, if they are used.

    Normal electrolysis process is very slow, requires pure, distilled water, plus a catalyst to work. Its temperature increases by 1 degree Celsius for every minute is is operated.

    But Stanley's design works on any kind of water, and it needs absolutely no maintenance. During the Water Cracking process, the temperature of waer does not change at all...

    Stanley has many patents from all over the world for his designs. He certainly did the unthinkable... :)... Ingenious!

    Please check out these videos...
    Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP9DooV_mDk
    Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD6We_WhfEA&feature=user
     
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    2H2O + electricity --> 2H2 + O2 + heat
    J(electricity) = J(heat)

    Look at that equation. Learn from that equation. The same amount of energy is used in the extraction of hydrogen as is created in the burning. There is no net gain. It is not "better for the environment", in order to produce the hydrogen you must supply energy produced at a power plant.
     
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    Isn't it possible that this equation, proposed in the 18th century, could be updated in some way? We have already completely revamped the system in which the elements react. There are no longer any atoms,. Everything is made up of strings.

    Look up SuperStrings Theory

    Quite possible, that there could be a way in which water cracks up very easily. Stanley had a host of patents to his name...
     
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    its better for the environment when the electricity used in the electrolysis process is produced from as clean renewable source.
     
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    lol string theory is a theory. It's a joke. Some guy finds a formula in a book, than makes up dimensions and membrane universes and everything else to make the formula work. God, I could make any formula work if I could make up anything.

    It's not an 18th century equation, it's common sense.
    You use electricity to separate the bonds, and you get hydrogen and oxygen.

    It's false. The energy to break the bonds of water, isn't what your burning. You're burning the hydrogen, which a separate entity with it's own energy.

    So the separation of water molecules is independent of hydrogen itself.

    I'm pretty sure that there is more energy in breaking the bonds of water, than you actually get out from burning the hydrogen.
     
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    I think the point is that even if there is a net loss in H extraction; you don’t need oil as you could use many cheaper alternatives and the H would be portable for transportation. Nuclear power + water = gas
     
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    Don't use the word theory. Theory has a definition in science other than what you're used to. Joke is fine though.
    The act of burning is the fusing of the fuel with oxygen. It is exactly the same process in reverse as separating the molecule.
     
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    This equation is fundamental, there isn't anyway to change it under normal room temperature and conditions.

    No other way of doing things, I am afraid, what was given in the 18th century remained as valid as it is in the 21st century.

     
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    No it's not. Hydrogen doesn't get it's energy from the bonds of water.
     
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    This isn't fission. You're not creating energy from the hydrogen molecule, you're creating it from the chemical reaction of oxygen and hydrogen.
     
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    Do you have other cases of this happening to other inventors?

    I mentioned this to my dad and he was talking about patents like this being bought up by oil companies. My best guess is you would never hear about these patents again.
     
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    We will never see an alternative fuel for this reason. If they're getting a carbon tax prepared, they have long-term plans..
     
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    Once we start drilling in the gulf, gas prices will drop, the economy will improve, virgins will get laid, and all will be well. You must think positive.
     
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