Soldier shot bound Palestinian with rubber bullet

I do not see where we disagree in this, to kill all Jews means genocide, this is true, but I quickly looked over Rankhyips posts again and did not see where he say kill all Jews, maybe I am missing something.

I may have some comments about his posts, but this part in particular you are directing me about it, even after I told you, whether he means genocide, or something else that requires the mass killing, and destruction of people, I am not cool with it, I suppose, this was enough to answer your direct question, yet you go on and direct me while saying "killing all Jews is genocide" as if I do not know already that killing all Jews is genocide.

I m more interested in the reasons that made Rankhyips, and maybe others, to think in genocide ( as you or he view it), or mass killing, or ethnic cleansing - as a solution, in other words, what is the problem as he believes, that made him come to this idea of solving it?

 

Right, imad likes the Jews, it is just the Zionists he would not mind exterminated.

You think you are so artful with your words, as if we don't all know what you are saying.

 

when you make sarcasm, can you please put it between <sarcasm> ..</sarcasm> cos I feel we are having a serious discussion here, and not sure which part of your post, can be taken seriously, and which part should be ignored?

please, say what I am saying, since you know it.

 

Yeah, you are missing something alright.

There was no sarcasm in my post.

Do you think the killing of all Zionists would be a genocide?

I hope you can be a man and answer that simple question.

 

as I know (feel free to correct me here if I was wrong) organized killing of a whole nation, or race, is genocide, therefore, killing all Jews is genocide,

but regarding Zionism, I m not sure if it will be considered genocide, or mass killing, which I made it clear when I said:

so I think I already answered your question before you ask it, in case all Jews are Zionists, then it will be considered genocide, since not all Jews are Zionists, in fact, many of them are against Zionism., I think its called mass killing, which I m against it too.

btw, what did you mean by saying "I hope you can be a man and answer that simple question" do you mean, that only men can answer questions, and women, can't?

you should be careful on what you say, I m still interested to know, what you already know, about me, when you said: "as if we don't all know what you are saying."

and whom you meant by "we"?

are my questions too complicated? if so, then be a coward and do not answer them.

 

Imad, you made the statements:

In other words, strongly intimating that Rank's statements were not lunacy, but truth, being unduly criticized. You also said:

Which is to say, it isn't "genocide" so long as it is the destruction of people who are themselves "evildoers," for want of a better word. I will restate:

As to what, exactly, Rank was advocating, let's cut the crap, shall we?:

 

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident"
Arthur Schopenhauer

I believe this is a true statement, so whenever I see people ridiculing someone for what he says, instead of discussing and refuting, I tend to look again of what that person have said, does not mean I agree on it all, at the same I do not refuse it all, specially when he make good points and support them with proofs.

btw it was not the first time that I say something similar, in reply for similar posts.

as for...

I believe when they committed "Hiroshima & Nagasaki", they said something about killing some, to save some, so they used this as a way to solve a conflict, and save the life of many later, which I also mentioned I am against it, not against it only, I am not convinced with that lame excuse.

you do not have to read behind my posts, as I try to make them very clear, if there is something that is not clear for you, feel free to ask me what I meant with it, but if you like to follow browntwn in putting words in my mouth which I never said, and claiming that you know what I am saying, then.. feel free, I will point it wherever I see it.

 

1. It was a simple yes or no question. I dared you to answer by calling on your own manhood to stand up for what you think. I am sorry if you are a woman and I offended you. I just assumed you were a man. If I am wrong in that assumption, then I would have instead called upon your womanhood to answer the question. I do not distinguish between men and women in the manner you imply, we are all part of mankind. You must be mistaking me for a religious zealot who thinks women are intellectually different than men.

2. When I say "we" I mean all educated, thinking, civilized people who see what it is you mean from the totality of your posts on these forums.

3. It is too bad you are not intellectually able to answer if YOU think the killing of all Zionists would be a genocide. It would seem a simple questions for most people. Your failure or refusal to answer is nevertheless revealing. There is no right answer, it was a question about your opinion. To deflect as you did is very weak to me.



And yes, I think you have made your views on Jews and Zionists and Rankyhips posts very clear.

 

1- in this you are like somebody who is asking an agnostic, to answer the question of "Does God exist?" with Yes or No?

since my answer is based on the most acceptable definition of genocide as the organized killing of a whole nation or race, and knowing that there are some arguments over other definitions, that I m not aware of all of them, I said, I am not sure,

if I said Yes, will I be honest? and if I said No, will I be honest? the truth, is I am not sure, which I made it clear since before you ask,

again, whether its genocide or mass killing, or else, its something that I am against it.

2- not sure who gave you the right to speak on behalf all educated, thinking, civilized people.

3- see # 1.

And yes, I think I have made my views on Jews and Zionists and Rankyhips posts very clear, yet you keep trying to twist them, anyway, again you fail to answer a simple question, what I asked you was to say what you know about me, when you said "as if we don't all know what you are saying." if you know it, then say it please, else.. can we get back to the topic?

 

It's quite basic to me, Imad.

Rank has developed the mindset such that he believes there is a worldwide Jewish conspiracy to end all non-Jews. "They (Jews) want us dead."

Because of this, he has advocated the murder of millions to save the "rest" of the planet.

One either ascribes the first paragraph to lunacy, and flatly condemns the second paragraph, or one does not.

All else, to me, is a game I am no longer interested in playing on this forum.

 

My dear friend Northpointaiki, you seem to be obsessed by that one word, so badly you can't address anything else (I may have an idea why that is the case). May I conclude you are suggesting a worldwide nuclear slaughter is the better option or are you not grasping this is the inevitable catastrophe that is waiting on us very soon?

The discussion stops when I ask why you support a state of Pisrael and not a "state of Native Americans", Native Americans who BTW suffered a lot more than the Jews - assuming the imaginary magical 6 million lie is correct - who had to go through a REAL holocaust, without a lot of survivors who could tell about it (those countless survivors are making the word "holocoast" quite amusing).
About 60 million lives where lost during the "Conquest of Paradise". Not to mention, this episode of human drama happened more recently than the exodus. I don't think Native Americans have ever been kicked out of 200 countries and I don't think they have ever suffered from "Grandeur de Dieu".
Unlike the theft of America, the robbery of Palestinian land has supposedly religious roots, while 80% of American Jews are secular and also a slight majority of Jews living in Pisrael are secular. What's also not unimportant is that The Promised Land is "coincidentally" surrounded by oil fields. Therefore I can only conclude that the real reason behind the theft was the purest act of extreme racism and hate towards Arabs/Muslims, an act of imperialism and supremacy, an attempt to disrupt the world peace and an insult to every humanist.
The religious excuse is just a smokescreen.

As long as you don't address this very issue, you are in my honest view unfair, unobjective, brainwashed since your childhood, unintelligent (although you are!) and even racist and extreme. Jews have more value than Native Americans according to you. Well, I can and will never agree with such a disgusting and obnoxious view. Every human is equal and should be treated that way. There's only one minority who calls themselves The Chosen Ones and most of all they have the arrogance to act that way.


You cannot be a humanist if you have been sincere so far. Not to mention, you lose all your credibility to those who understand my point of view. You'd be surprised how many share my view in pm but they choose not to speak out.

It's more like cattle. I don't have to search too far to find evidence of their sick supremacy. This dumb Jew makes my point quite clear:

Watch this very revealing video of this ugly zionist and his ugly girlfriend and listen how they talk about us. This is the common way behind 4 walls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9RY9aMCYUQ
Make sure you read the comments as well!

To say you're better than the rest and killing the ones you consider as cattle is only one small step. It already happens almost on a daily basis in Pisrael. Jews can kill and have dinner 5 minutes later. They don't even call it "killing", but "neutralizing". That's why I don't consider zionists as human beings. A human has a heart and soul, a human can't kill and feel good about it.


Busted again. DP is run by fascist Zionists who only allow one side of the story.
See you in a month.

 

It appears our friend Rank has created a duplicate account, and was banned for it.

Rank, if you're watching, I am in part American Indian, and your attempt to conflate what happened here with the State of Israel is a misguided one from a position of ignorance. I have long said there is no god-given right - no "manifest destiny" to any plot of land, whether it is the United States of America, or the State of Israel. There is a right for people everywhere to live in peace and security - this would include Jews, and non-Jews, everywhere.

Your seeing in the Jews of the world a poison and a bane to humanity isn't new, and someone before you was a helluva lot more organized in seeking to put the foul delusion into practice; the same as with your call for mass murder, which is equally, unequivocally, contemptible and worthy of nothing but condemnation.

 

I have some links for you Rankhyips...
Delusional Disorder
Paranoid Personality Disorder
Schizophrenia
I'm sure there are many excellent doctors in your area, you might want to consider getting some help.

 

What tribe are you part Indian of?

 

Why does everyone go like "The State of israel" "The State of israel" "The State of israel"

Why not just call it Israel? We already know its a country and Palestine is not. Why do you need to remind all of us that israel is a state? "We" know it.

 

Well, only three people did it on this page. You, North, and Poool. You can ask them. (poool if he is ever unbanned)

I would guess that some people may do it to distinguish the modern state of Israel from biblical Israel.

Anyway, what an odd thing to complain about. There are people openly calling for killing of jews and zionists and you are bothered because someone calls Israel The State of Israel. Not to mention how some of the people here call it pisreal. You are really a piece of work.

Some people call it the US, some USA, some The United States of America, some just America. Is that going to be your next big issue?

Can you find something more meaningless to post about? One would think with all the problems in your own country you would be more concerned in trying to solve those injustices and appalling inequity. But not you, you are more interested in dumping on Israel and complaining about nothing.

 

What am I supposed to do about inequality in my country? Our cities are free of any prejudices based on castes. There still is problem in villages, coz of illiteracy and age-old customs. It takes time to change a society, where rituals and customs and religion are given high importance in the daily lives of people. But change is coming, for sure...

I come to this forum, to expose the plight of Palestinians to this blind world. Somehow, people are indifferent towards Palestinians, as if their pain does not matter, as if they are lesser human than the israelis. People want to fight the terrorists, and kill them all... But they don't understand what creates a "terrorist".

The "State" of Israel is just some mumbo-jumbo addon to make it appear bigger than it is. That "State" has become morally bankrupt, for supporting injustices towards Palestinians. If these people had any humanity and moral values, they would never allow any settlements on the Palestinian land.

 

I have always liked your point of view over most posters in the forum.

If Palestine were made an official country with defined boundaries that was recognized by the entire world would that equal peace for the Palestinians? Would the the Arab–Israeli conflict end with Statehood defined by compromised defined boundaries?

 

I agree Palestinians have poor conditions but instead of improving it they keep buying weapons and rockets.

No wonder Egypt doesn't want those barbarians who control Gaza. note: I'm not saying all Gaza citizens are barbarians, their leadership (hamas) is.

Thats what happens when Palestinians choose the wrong leaders. the opposite is the west bank who experience better conditions nowadays.

The total opposite is Egypt and Jordan who have fine relations with Israel.

I don't blame the Palestinians, I blame their stupidity for choosing to fight a much stronger 'enemy' both physically and mentally.

If you cant beat them, Join them...
Thats what Egypt and Jordan did.

 

F*ck Zionists.