Soldier shot bound Palestinian with rubber bullet

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  1. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #41
    To be fair, Israel has demonstrated it can and will conduct itself peacefully with its neighbors like Egypt and Jordan.

    The problem is that many Palestinians, many Muslims, many here on DP do not want peace with Israel. They oppose the peace that has existed for decades with Egypt and Jordan. How can people who oppose existing peace have any credibility?

    If I understand their posts correctly, guys like imad, iggysick, gauharjk are all opposed to the decades of peace that have prevailed between Israel and Jordan and Egypt. How is that rational?



    ST12: I certainly don't give a shit what you think, you are just a petty antisemite.​
     
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  2. imad

    imad Peon

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    #42
    this can be read in 3 ways:

    Israel has demonstrated it can and will conduct itself peacefully with its neighbors like Egypt and Jordan.

    Egypt has demonstrated it can and will conduct itself peacefully with its neighbors like Israel.

    Jordan has demonstrated it can and will conduct itself peacefully with its neighbors like Israel.

    so Arabs can make peace, when they get their rights back, which are their occupied lands, Palestinians until now, did not get back their occupied lands.

    knowing that Arabs in Egypt, Jordan, and Palestine, are connected to each other in many bonds, we can't say Israel made Peace with Arabs, but with some Arabian countries, under the impression that there will be peace negotiations with Palestinians which supposed to end by Palestinians getting back their rights, as the case was with Jordan, and Egypt.

    the core problem, which caused these Arabian countries to be in war with Israel, were not solved yet, and I do not think Israel is serious about solving them, else Israel would stop building settlements even if it was as a sign of good will, the fact is Israel did not stop building and expanding settlements on the occupied Palestinian lands sometimes even when peace negotiations were taking place.

    when somebody seriously try to solve a problem, he would start with the cause not the symptoms.
     
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  3. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #43
    So do you support Israels peace with Jordan or not?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #44
    I'm not speaking of Israel as in the government, but as in some of it's citizens ;)
     
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    imad Peon

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    #45
    I support peace but not at any price, if the price is to cut Palestinians from the Arabian body, then I do not support it.
     
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    ST12 Active Member

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    #46

    You think I care what a man with your level of honesty, dignity and morals thinks about my thoughts?
    LOL.

    Just to please a jew or a muslim or whoever it might be I won't twist my principles.

    Israel has the obligation to treat the people in the occupied teritories with respect. Muslims, Christian and everyone else have to treat people from other religions with respect too. I am not biased in my statements. Unlike you.


    No matter what labels you put on me. The truth is Taleban practicies, Israeli practicies plus those of many others I don't mention here often violate human rights.
     
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  7. Rankhyips

    Rankhyips Banned

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    #47
    It's always entertaining to see the good people defending the poor little Jews "who have suffered so much in the past and continue to suffer today" due to the evil Palestinians, Muslims and the rising number of evil people on this forum and others with their "antisemitic" comments.

    How can you expect peace from the Palestinians when the amount of casualties on Palestinian side is tenfold (conservative projection)?
    How can you force the Palestinians to recognize Pisrael when Golda Meir said "there is not such a thing as a Palestinian"?
    I know I wouldn't, if I was a Palestinian (or anything else for that matter).
    How can you expect to have two states living side by side in peace when the land is not equally divided? When there's a wall? When the Pisraelians are letting the Palestinians starve?
    You are so objective, Rebecca. Obviously you can't think for yourself. You are one of the repeaters. Who gave you that brainwash? Was it CNN or the Jew York Times?

    Imagine America getting controlled by a foreign country and the occupiers demand unconditional support and friendship from the Americans for their country and policies through powerful lobby groups, do you think the American citiz.... hey, wait a minute. Something doesn't add up here. :p

    This thing will lead to another World War. This time there will be billions of casualties. We're not far from that point, I believe. Less than 5 years.

    As long as Americans are apathic towards the fact their country has been stolen and soon to be brought to bankruptcy state, deliberately (what happened to the Deutsche Mark when "a certain group of powerful people" who were hosted in Germany before number 2 began?), as long as Greenspans are replaced by Bernankes, as long as Wolfowitzs are replaced by Zoellicks, as long as 99% of the Americans/zombies will be in hibernation, the world will live in war, fear and will be lied to.

    The only solution to world peace - although I like what gauharjk is proposing but it's simply too naive - is wipe out every single zionist on this planet. Note: I said zionist, not Jew! Big difference!
    It's harsh, I realize it, but there is no alternative solution for world peace. We, humans, want to live in peace. A minority I don't consider as human beings, will never cease to oppose what is our right: A future, today and tomorrow.
     
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    #48
    Yep, the true path to true peace. Lots of historical models - Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot (dozens more). "Want peace? Exterminate!" Presumably, beginning with every Israeli who believes in his or her country's right to exist.

    Nothing will ever be gained so long as such views exist.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #49
    Welcome back bigot.

    I see you have the same wonderful views. Thanks for sharing. How long until the next ban?

    Let's take a little trip down memory lane of some of your better posts:

     
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    Rankhyips Banned

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    #50
    I'd rather prefer to wipe out a minority who is the root of evil rather than another World War with billions of innocents deaths. But no, the latter WILL happen.

    Do you think it's a coincidence that Jews have been kicked out of 200 countries throughout history? Do you think I'm comparing the Deutsche Mark then with the dollar today by coincidence?
     
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    #51
    We've had this discussion. A few times, actually. Oh, and more.

    I think your views are quite sick, and I condemn them.

    Yep. A little corporal with a bad moustache vomited the same line a half century ago.

    Another flawless history lesson.
     
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    Rankhyips Banned

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    #52
    Yes, that's what they do here when you speak out. As long as you say bad things about Muslims and lick the a$$es of the chosen ones, you're fine on DP, but if you ever post a negative (but true) thought about the tribe...
    Makes me wonder who or more precisely "what" is running DP. Not the most objective forum, I have noticed.
    I'm not too concerned about a ban, frankly.
    I thought personal attacks were not allowed here, brown... (objectivity)
     
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  13. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #53
    I do not agree with any conspiracy theory of zionist in control of the world. I certainly am against exterminating any portion of the human race.

    The Palestinians have the right to live and so has the rest, Jews or Zionists or anyone for that matter.


     
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    Rankhyips Banned

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    #54
    That little corporal was a puppet chosen by the government behind the governments. The same people who are pushing for the NWO today. He was an actor, just like that clown in the White House today and he was chosen because he was a great actor with the right bloodline. Some things never change.
    Do you honestly think Hitler was elected democratically??? Do you think he had power??? Do you think Bushie is running America??? Gimmie a break.
     
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    #55
    Well, I dunno, but personally, I get kinda testy at calls for extermination as a bit beyond a "personal attack on DP."
     
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    Rankhyips Banned

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    #56
    Agreed. On the condition that the Zionists stop this madness right away. I would like that, really, but if you're honest, you know this is simply not possible.
     
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    #57
    Uh, yeah. As I said, we've been here, and your hall of mirrors and prisms in history hasn't improved with age. The links in my post above deal with your little cartoon newspaper prints, and the deeply flawed history flowing from it. Tragic, actually, although my compassion ends where your vision is a call to action, namely, calls for the extermination of an entire people.
     
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    #58
    My blood boils when I see another World War in preparation. And "they" ARE preparing the fine details now.
    Will you have a thought about what I said - even a brief thought will do - when we are that far, again? Perhaps you will know the difference between speaking the truth and wanting peace and a future for our kids and a bunch of madmen who want to wipe out a world population, driven by power and money.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #59
    I do not know about Zionist, I just know that the Middle East situation is extremely complicated, Israel - Palestinian relationships need courageous and charismatic leaders on both sides to come together and forge a lasting peace.

    Hopefully the regional powers as well as USA can assist rather than use them as pawns in their struggle for influence over the region. Honestly speaking I don't see that happening anywhere in the horizon......



     
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    Rankhyips, in all honesty, I feel sorry for you. But again, that compassion ends with the call to action - extermination and genocide - you have made.
     
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