So what do you think "Allah" means?

No, no, no.. you have it all wrong. He's the "Messiah" or JC for short!

 

You have been misinformed.
We don't worship the moon, it is our watch according to which we count the monthes and days, it is a blessing from God upon us and one of His favorites.

37. And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allâh Who created them, if you (really) worship Him.

38. But if they are too proud (to do so), then there are those who are with your Lord (angels) glorify Him night and day, and never are they tired.

39. And among His Signs (in this), that you see the earth barren, but when We send down water (rain) to it, it is stirred to life and growth (of vegetations). Verily, He Who gives it life, surely, (He) is Able to give life to the dead (on the Day of Resurrection). Indeed! He is Able to do all things.

We indeed consider Jesus as the Masseah PBUH.

171. O people of the Scripture! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allâh aught but the truth. The Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, was (no more than) a Messenger of Allâh and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Mary and a spirit from Him; so believe in Allâh and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allâh is (the only) One Ilâh (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allâh is All Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.

172. The Messiah will never be proud to reject to be a slave to Allâh, nor the angels who are near (to Allâh). And whosoever rejects His worship and is proud, then He will gather them all together unto Himself.

173. So, as for those who believed (in the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism) and did deeds of righteousness, He will give their (due) rewards, and more out of His Bounty. But as for those who refuse His worship and were proud, He will punish them with a painful torment . And they will not find for themselves besides Allâh any protector or helper.

174. O mankind! Verily, there has come to you a convincing proof (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) from your Lord, and We sent down to you a manifest light (this Qur'ân).

175. So, as for those who believed in Allâh and held fast to Him, He will admit them to His Mercy and Grace (i.e. Paradise), and guide them to Himself by a Straight Path.

And we believe that Jesus will return soon.

Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.

 

Thank you for entering the discussion by ensuring you back up your argument with quotes from the Koran - I think it is more enlightening as to what Islam stands for. Can you explain the numbering to me please? - in the Bible there are individual books and each was later numbered by chapter and verse (though this is a later addition to enable one to find a section quickly).

As your quote from the Koran clearly shows not to worship the moon, etc can you explain why the Crescent is so prominent in Islam, particularly when all other images, depictions of animals etc being banned from adorning places of worship, etc for fear of idol worhsip.

above having a son - clearly Muhammed states that Jesus is not the Son of God hence is in disagreement with Christianity - my original argument stands - the Two religions can not be reconcilled.

 

There is alot of proof that Jesus is Gods Son and there are so many prophecies that you don't even need faith to believe it. Watch this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...A&q=Walter+Veith+just+another+man&hl=en&emb=1

 

The numbers indicate to the verses of the Noble Quran.

Quotation might be from different chapters, this is why you might see the change in the numbers.

They ask thee, of new moons, say: They are fixed seasons for mankind and for the pilgrimage.....(189)

God order us to do some kinds of worship in particular months set by Him, so we use the watch He gave us to know when the time of worship is due.

 

So your saying the crescent moon is like a watch or clock

 

I think what Obamanation means is he and his jesus are both toilet. Dirty toilet. No offense. Am I right??!!!!

 

Let us analyse your post:

- If you mean by "Am I right?" that God and His Messenger Jesus PBUH are like your father and you, then of course you are wrong.

Jesus is a holy human being. His Lord is The Source of Holiness.

Highly Exalted is Allah, Above what the ignorant think about Him.

- But if you mean by "Am I right?" that Obamanation was thinking wrongly as you clarified, then, you are right.

The confusion of that person was due to the fact that the christians say the father is God.

That person confused and took it wrongly and thought that God is his father.

So, the description of that confused agnostic was based on his father, not on God.

Bismillahi Arrahmani Arraheem
1. Qul: whoua Allahu Ahad
2. Allah-us-Samad
3. Lam yaled, walam youlad
4. walam yakun lahou kufuwan Ahad.

Meaning:

In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
1. Say: "He is Allâh, (the) One and Only.
2. "Allâh is The Absolute, The Eternal.
3. "He begets not, nor was He begotten;
4. "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."


No offense. I am right.

 

Are we both now dabbling in toilet humor? Here is a riddle for you. The question du jour is, what is the meaning of "Allah". I respond with "toilet" and you imply that both I and jesus are a Toilet. The only logical conclusion that I can come up with is that you think I am Allah. If so, I have two commands from you as Allah your god.

1) Give me all your money, which i will split with my toilet.
2) Infiltrate Al Queda and kill Osama Bin Laden.

Carry on. If you have any questions for your god, you have only to ask.

 

There will be 2 answers:

1. Allah is The Source of Peace, Owner of Majesty and Nobility.

This High level is not for any one to reach. Only those whom Allah has Honered and provided them with His Glory to know Him.

Unless The Holy allows them to enter His Kingdom, they cannot find Him. It is the Supreme Bounty from Allah that we know Him.

So, All the Praises and thanks be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.


2. The other answer is the false statements and it is for these who are too dirty to know The Source of Holiness.

We know that you respond with "your mouth".

Quickly, Go to the hospital, it seems that you have Paranoia.

Allah is The High, Only One. all the rest who think they ,too, are high are just crazy.

Don't worry, I will pray for you that you will be hospitalized.

Recite the following 21 times before you sleep and every thing will be OK:

Allah is The Lord. I am just an enemy disgraced slave for Him.

Best wishes.

 

prove my statements to be false.

To be fair, I respond with my keyboard. Not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China.

You have any proof of that? The "everything will be OK" part. Hell, I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it would help so let me know.

Also, I'm not so sure about the enemy part. I personally love my toilet. I spent a LOT of my government check getting exactly the toilet I wanted. I consider it my "thinking place" and spend long hours there reading magazines, taking a crap, or jerking off to fantasies of Nancy Pelosi. Its one of those low boys with the big oval bowl and a quiet flush. The cool porcelain feels great against my ass cheeks when I pinch out a big loaf.

Sadly, I'm thinking I'm going to have to change it out in the not to distant future because my balls are starting to hang lower and lower and are coming dangerously close to touching the water these days. Nothing worse than having your balls touch water filled with urine and feces. ewww.

Now that you got me thinking about it, I think I'll pay a visit to "Allah" right now and deposit something in his mouth. No offense.

 

My proof is already there, It is too High for you to understand.

The fact that you are feces thinking the toilet is the highest thing and thus you call it Allah, is another clear proof that you are far away from The Reality.

Every one loves his parts, I don't blame you, it is your mind.

And this is one of the reasons your saying about Allah is wrong and Far away from the Truth.

As long as your mind is a place of dirtiness, It cannot know Allah The Source of Holiness.

If you are going to have the same mind, then I advice you not to change it.

But If you think that you are going to get benefit of the holiness Allah provided my mind/soul with, then change it now before you miss the chance, I am so busy that I cannot care about you all the time.

Look at yourself, you will find the worst.

Your imagination is part of you. Allah is High and you are low.

High Exalted is Allah, Above what the swine attributed to Him.

Allah has send a viruse to kill the swines and those who live with them, and I expect you to die soon. Amen.

 

Ah, hey, whoa. I didnt say I lived with Allah, I just said said I spent a lot of time sitting on his face crapping and jerking off. There is a big difference.

I also never implied the word Allah meant swine. Those are your words mate

 

Really? Allah and Islam are behind the swine flu?

Do you realize how ignorant you make yourself sound when you spout off crap like that?

 

dind't allah create the pigs? somebody else did?? OMG

 

Allah created everything, silly! Including Jews who drop bombs on muslims. I guess that is Allah cursing Muslims.

 

Yes, Allah has created Obamanation, the disease that comes to it and the cure that it needs.

 

One might say an Obamanation in the eyes of god.

 

WTH

 

I understand you.

missing your son Obamanation.

Thank you for telling me how to use you.

I will deposit Obamanation in you as soon as possible.