So there's no PR any more - alternatives?

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  1. pratikgmr

    pratikgmr Active Member

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    #81
    it is just a rumor..if it was true, google would have taken out the old pr's and made is N/A.....as long as old pr exist...it will not cease
     
    pratikgmr, Aug 19, 2007 IP
  2. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #82
    Well, what they can do is just leave the current PR like it is - in this case the next Google Toolbar will not include the PR display any more. Then they disable the PR query. So they can drop the PR display without doing anything special.
     
    katulago, Aug 20, 2007 IP
  3. ljastangs21

    ljastangs21 Banned

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    #83
    cool lets all capitilize all our letters!!!!
     
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  4. EducationLinks

    EducationLinks Well-Known Member

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    #84
    Another baseless claim without proof from a grunt. If I had a nickel for every time I opened this type of thread with a purposely misleading title . . . .

    If I were a moderator, I would ban people for this offense.
     
    EducationLinks, Aug 20, 2007 IP
  5. darksat

    darksat Guest

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    #85
    Its actually a smart move, they have been using a number of techniques in conjunction for some time that combined are very effective.
    This obsession a lot of people have with PR is stupid.
    you want to know what you should be looking at.
    I will give you one hint.
    IBM research labs,

    PR is simply a byproduct, not the magic bullet.
     
    darksat, Aug 20, 2007 IP
  6. TeachCrunch

    TeachCrunch Peon

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    #86
    I would like you to tell me where you got your information?

    Is this for sure now? Can you sight a url that confirms this? This will grossly affect my business where I use it as a measurement of a sites worth.
     
    TeachCrunch, Aug 20, 2007 IP
  7. redhits

    redhits Notable Member

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    #87
    Crawling and storing the informations it's the easiest part :)
    The hardest part it's to find a really good coder that will be able to do scripts to process so many queries in a smart way. And i am not talking just about getting the page rank,etc.. but also about....
    If you create such a system and have 1000 queries/ second and 100 millions pages indexed, how can you create a database so fast that will search within seconds throw the 100 millions pages for 1000 times in a second ?!
     
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  8. tbarr60

    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    #88
    I heard they were going to shut down the whole Internet so I going to download it to floppies right now.
     
    tbarr60, Aug 20, 2007 IP
  9. TeachCrunch

    TeachCrunch Peon

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    #89
    Well myself I have had google pause and think about a query once or twice for about 20 seconds! ( it however always said .12 milliseconds though every failer lol )

    No word of a lie I have confused the mighty G myself and it has stalled and returned a answer some great deal of seconds after. Glitch? I think so since we all would have to agree that the internet is very large and very few websites make it into ...my theory (googles hardware index ) and not just googles software index.

    My theory is that google has 2 one for the majority of use of some pre-approved guaranteed certifiable good websites all ready for us to see in some mammoth hardware memory system just waiting to serve it up to us in milliseconds , while some others wait in what appears to be a bottomless pit where we are force to spend our days dealing with riff raff sites like SC and others.

    to the pit I say, to the pit.
     
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  10. americantruckbuyer

    americantruckbuyer Banned

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  11. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #91

    Well, I am not thinking about implementing a search engine - I am thinking about calculating a replacement for the PR in case Google will not show it any more.

    So there's no need to process quries quickly.

    I am a coder myself (degree, 10 years in job) and I think the only problem is the bandwidth and storage needed to crawl the www completely.
     
    katulago, Aug 21, 2007 IP
  12. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #92
    Where's the difference? Hardware needs a firmware or something similar as well - so it's all about software (and a lot of hardware to execute it).

    Actually it's not that hard to implement a search engine similar to google with similar speed. The problem is the massic amont of hardware needed to run it quickly and the bandwidth to process queries and spiders.
     
    katulago, Aug 21, 2007 IP
  13. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #93
    Pagestrength is no alternative to PR. Actually the name is wrong - it should be "site strength" since it cannot be calculated on page basis.

    Additionally, the PR is calculated into the PS so it's of no use as a PR replacement.
     
    katulago, Aug 21, 2007 IP
  14. nikolaalx

    nikolaalx Well-Known Member

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    #94
    Yep the only people who should be reading this thread are ones which sell links :p....for all others....pr is as meaningful as rats ass!
     
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  15. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #95
    No, every webmaster who wants to do some SEO work needs something like the PR.
     
    katulago, Aug 21, 2007 IP
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    #96
    I would be surprized if google ever abolish page rank they love it to death why would they?
     
    mrcrowley, Aug 21, 2007 IP
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    usasportstraining Notable Member

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    #97
    Eek! Did someone say Google is going to blow up the world with a PR bomb?!
     
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    #98
    Any company that has a key audience focused on a product of theirs should keep that product alive. If PR is done away with people might turn to Yahoo, Alexa, Ask, or some newcomer for an alternative metric.

    Gaining high PR should have some affect on other Google calculations like SERPs, Adwords pricing, Adsense payout, weighting in image search, etc. How much affect is arguable but factors that are valuable in one measure will have some value in others.
     
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  19. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #99

    No, everything you say is not true, because:

    - nobody except for our niche (webmasters and SEOs) care about PR at all
    - webmasters and SEOs need Google in any way because the traffic comes from Google. So we have no chance to turn to something else
    - Google will not drop the PR - they can just hide it - no new export and that's it
    - this way Google would kill the "link for PR" market and that's what they want

    So I do not see any reason why Google makes the PR visible at all
     
    katulago, Aug 21, 2007 IP
  20. jimkarter

    jimkarter Notable Member

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    #100
    I surely don't agree with this. I know many of my friends who have google bars installed and they check PR of sites before buying. BTW, they are not techie people.
     
    jimkarter, Aug 21, 2007 IP