So there's no PR any more - alternatives?

It seems that Google will not show the PR any more.

Webmasters need some kind of value for a webpage in order to determine the value of a link. I don't see any alternatives to PR yet.

What about starting an project for
- crawling the www (well, that's the actual problem)
- collecting all links
- computing some king of value for every single web page.

It's obvoius that "crawling the www" is the *big* problem.

In order to calculate the space and bandwidth, does anyone know
- how many websites are out there?
- what's the average number of pages per site?

Any other suggestions?

 

whre do you get the idea that there will be no more PR?

 

Is Google definitely doing away with PR? I've only heard rumors about it. I think it would be a mistake, because it would provide an opening for one of the other major search engines to develop something similar. Imagine if Yahoo developed a hybrid of PR and Alexa ranking, and only ranked sites within its YPN. People would be climbing over each other to get into YPN just so they could work on their ranking that they could show to other advertisers.

 

Page strength is an alternative. As for PageRank, don't think it's dead and buried just yet.

 

Actually what I heard was Google is shutting down.

Apparently they feel bad making all that money so the big guys are quitting and giving everything to Northernlights search engine.

 

yep heard the same actually.

 

OK if u say so, pr is old history... OMG

 

Google is shuting down, since when!?!

wait - let me do a google serach


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6944292.stm

 

Well, not exporting the PR any more will:
1) kill the "pay for pr" link market
2) push the "pay for traffic" link market (actually this is AdSense)

So there are some good reasons for G* not to show the PR any more.

Most of the traffic comes from Google and an alternative from Yahoo or MSN wouldn't count much - webmasters need something that's relevant for the Google SERPs.

 

it's really true? any proof?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6944292.stm

google is only shuting down video stuff

 

rumor, rumor, rumor...
what else I can say???

 

I don't think Google will shut down..

 

Couldnt Care If They Where shutting It Down Everyone Goes On About PR. Having Good Traffic Is Much Better.

 

As controversial as it may be, I think it'd make sense from Googles perspective to abandon publically available PR information.

What i'm saying is that they'd still use the algorythms for PR as they currently do; they'd just do away with the ability for the public to check and view a sites pagerank.

Considering a lot of people buy links in order to increase their PR, and Google are very anti-paid links; concealing PR would potentially look like a good step for them.

I dunno, perhaps i'm talking nonsense - just trying to see things from their perspective

 

Don't you think you should supply a bit of proof before making these kind of statements?

 

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2005/05/_google_hacked_shut_down_for_15_minutes/

 

No proof - it is just my opinion.

Anyway, anyone has answer to the questions I initially posted?

Would be nice to have an alternative to PR anyway and I think there's no other way than running a spider to crawl the web. This is why I'd be interested in knowing the amount of data we are talking about...

 

1. PR will not be shut down as well as google. I wonder who dumb enough to comes up with that idea
2. People still talking about PR because they think it will release every 3 months but there is no data saying that google will export their PR every 3 months. It could be 6 months or even a year if they want to. So, just stop bugging about the PR and it will comes when its time.

 

How about traffic, that is what websites SHOULD be judged by, not some number. I'm glad this PR fiasco is over, but I started ignoring it........and Google, and long time ago.