Though I decided not to waste my time posting in this section that is full of "bashing" by some Christian extremists instead of an intelectual discussion. I can't stop myself from laughing out loud when I read some posts with messages like " Muslim want to destroy Israel because they are jealous of Jews" etc by people who pretend they "know everything" when the truth is they clearly know very little about what they are talking about. But, I won't blame them as that is basically the same reason we have suicide bombing etc by Islam extremists. They are lack of knowledge, but they act beyond their knowledge which is what I consider as stupidity out of arrogance..Anyway, for those of you who think only muslims have the idea that the establishment of "the state of Israel" will lead to chaos (which is what we are seeing now), You might want to read this and stop being ignorant. http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ I would be interested with the reply from Mr. "Know Everything"....
I thought islam was about peace and tolerance? Why wouldn't muslims welcome Jews into Israel if it were tolerant? Who took Israel from whom? Wasn't Israel Israel before islam was invented? Would it be fair to say that islam, above all others, has more experience in "occupying" lands?
How would muslim welcome the establishment of the "state of Israel" when it is against the Jews belief itself???? For them, The state of Israel shouldn't exist and you're fighting for them for something that is against their own will??? I think they know better than you. Come on, use common sense. Jews themselves are against the establishment "of the state of Israel". What are you trying to say? You see, Jews are good people who are loyal to god. I hardly see anyone who is as good/loyal to god as them, not even in many Muslim nor Christian.
lol this is the problem with these people they dont read: again islamic topic is closed this proves everything: (c the url in previous post in other thread, i dont wana spam)
You weren't trying to pass off a small group as representative of all of Israel were you? But more importantly, why wouldn't muslims want Jews in the middle east? Isn't islam "peace and tolerance." Common sense tells me muslims are not very fond of Jews. Scriptures from the quran reinforce this. One of those "catch 22" scenarios here. Israel was Israel long before islam was invented. I find it ironic that muslims want to cry about "occupation" when they themselves have more history than any other group know to man on occupying other countries. You mean "supposedly" some Jews? Surely you are not trying to be deceptive here. So what's the beef? islam is about tolerance, right? Tolerate the Jews in their home lands. It was their home long before islam was invented and spread by the sword.
They are not small group, you clearly don't understand anything about the difference between Jews and zionists. Again, you don't bother to read yet keeps on saying muslim against Jews. Again, you're showing me you don't bother to learn before talking, there is no such thing as "some jews". Jews is jews, jews uphold Torah, they follow Torah and they don't do anything against Torah. "State of Israel" is against Torah, zionism is against Torah. So, simple logic, Jews is against the "state of israel and Zionism. So, Jews is not "equal" to Zionist or Zionism Ideology. Use "Google" dude! We are talking about Jews against zionism. Stop changing the topic. Anyway, there is no land for "Jews". They are not supposed to establish a land, It is against their own belief. Unless you want to say Jews are wrong about their own belief.
Well duh! Supposedly some Jews against the evil "zionism." I should have known you wouldn't have reasonable responses. To borrow from the typical muslim response: "I suggests you to get some knowledges about these things before speaking advices and learn to use google." There, that about sums it up, eh?
See what a Rabbi have to say, http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Demonstrations/IsraeliConsulate042805/Weiss042805.wmv In last year Jews demonstration against Zionism. About 10K of Jews attended the demo in NY .
It is not a response a muslim will give, but more as a response an educated person will give. Because an intelectual discussion is about knowledge and it is hard to talk with people who don't understand what they are talking about because of lacking in knowledge....
And how many from Israel attended? I think it's cool you found some Jews that want to subjugate themselves to islam's beliefs. Would you also agree with Jews that want to kick out muslim occupiers from the middle east?
Duh!!! You don't know how to differentiate between an American hating America and Jews against Israel. Let make things clear: You say Israel is a state of Jews. That is wrong. It is against Torah which mean it opposed Jews belief. Jews themselves against the state of Israel. So Israel can't represent Jews! In other words, Israel doesn't represent Jews but Zionists. So stop saying Israel represent Jews!
I am not sure how many zionists attended. Probably none. Because Jewish is against zionism! If they are jews, and they follow torah, they would probably won't be staying in "the state of israel"
Who are you calling "Christian extremists" buddy? Some of us are just beer guzzlers who hate terrorism. Jews aren't trying to kill me.