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So Many Useless Review Sites

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by fireboat, Mar 8, 2009.

  1. #1
    I've been searching through review sites for reviews of Clickbank products. Of course, I searched for my own product, but I was also searching for other good products to buy and/or promote.

    And... you know what? 99% of the "reviews" I found were either
    a) not reviews at all, (just sales pitches) and
    b) written by people who never actually saw/read the product

    I see a lot of this:

    Rating *****"
    Review: Excellent product. Highly recommended.
    Link to product: hop.xxx.xxx.clickbank.net​

    Does anyone out there know of an honest-to-goodness review site where people actually write about products they've seen? If so, I'd like to see the site. It would be interesting to learn more about the products out there.

    And, if anyone DOES have a real review site... and you'd like a free review copy of my product, let me know and I'll send one your way.
     
    fireboat, Mar 8, 2009 IP
  2. Faclez

    Faclez Peon

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    #2
    most people do this "affiliate marketing" thing to make money . . .
     
    Faclez, Mar 8, 2009 IP
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    wowhaxor Banned

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    #3
    Might just be too stoned but that got a laugh out of me :)

    @ OP - Those are affiliates trying to make money, nobody who's writing an honest not for profit review of a CB product is gonna be at the top, people put in work to get there in order to earn cash.
     
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  4. fireboat

    fireboat Active Member

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    Yes, yes... it got a laugh out of me too.

    I wasn't really expecting "not-for-profit reviews". Not even unbiased ones. But I was hoping a few people would have at least seem the product and had something to say about it.

    Don't publishers give away free copies to people who write "reviews" and affiliates who are all gung-ho about promoting the product?

    *shrug* I don't have a review site, bit I can say I've seen all the products I promote via affiliate links.
     
    fireboat, Mar 8, 2009 IP
  5. WarrenBuffett

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    I wrote an honest review on a clickbank product once, the publisher reported me to clickbank and I had my account disabled... what a crock... I think the thread is around here somewhere..

    So there is no point in 'honest reviews' because you will end up being taken down.
     
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    It is difficult to find honest review ,even you can't find in search engines also.Reviews are written by affiliates only ,so everybody write in favor of them.
     
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  7. ILovePPC

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    #7
    Calm down man, 10 out of 10 review in SERP is built by affiliate "honest review", worse, is somebody not even read, understand through the product. I seldom do that but I not gonna disagree that will sometime review a product if I find out the product have a low refund rate & after understanding that product.
     
    ILovePPC, Mar 8, 2009 IP
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    If you want to find some honest opinions try forums, in most cases the post are legit because most of the forums members hate that someone try to sell them.

    I think that almost all of the review sites are affiliate marketing in one way on another.
     
    dave.arison, Mar 8, 2009 IP
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    chuff1026 Active Member

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    #9
    i started a review site for my new product
    the review site is www.businesscreditbiblereview.com
    i offer the service to people who buy my product so i can get honest reviews
    the crazy thing is, when I showed a couple people here, one guy accused me of not getting real reviews and that i wrote them all
    which is simply not the case.
    i was thinking about creating a review site for all ebooks but there is no guarantee to get honest reviews
    if you are looking for honest reviews, i think the only way to do it is the way i did it
     
    chuff1026, Mar 9, 2009 IP
  10. wiper

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    We are here to make money my friend. If you want to give honest reviews fine but you will end up with no money.

    My 2 cents.
     
    wiper, Mar 9, 2009 IP
  11. chuff1026

    chuff1026 Active Member

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    #11
    i made a solid product
    thats the bottom line
    and i strive to make a stronger product on a continuous basis
    with that thinking i expect that this will help with my sales..
    i may be naive in my thinking, but i do not want to sell products solely based on sales tactics
    i also made the ebook difficult to share with friends and i am creating a system for for buying to refer their friends and get a referal fee as well as the new buyer getting a discount
    i know that you want only good reviews but i have work long and hard on my product and i do not expect to many negative reviews
    the product has been for sale for 4 days now at www.businesscreditbible.net and i have gotten 35 sales and 6-7 reviews so far and all are them are very positive for the most part....

    there are many generic review sites and that awesome for sales...and i do not doubt that
    but i also like the idea of honest reviews for a very solid product

    again..i may be naive in my thinking but i am trying it and its going ok so far.
     
    chuff1026, Mar 9, 2009 IP
  12. 2-4-K

    2-4-K Peon

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    Tim,

    90% of review sites are template driven high volume.. just the natuee of the beast.

    sounds like you need some aff's to promote your product.. took a look at your aff resources & site and it looks very professional.. some work went into it..

    however.. I need data I can convert into money (yes thats why we do this).. KW data.. long tail.. split testing results.. you need to pump some money into PPC also to get an idea what we as aff's will be facing.. once you know what converts etc.. then publish under the resources and let you aff's run with what works..

    To many publishers just give generic KW from the google tools.. I'm past all that..

    just some thoughts.
     
    2-4-K, Mar 9, 2009 IP
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    Ouch, horrible story :(
     
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    #14
    I agree, the best way I find reviews is on forums. Reviews from people who aren't newbies and just signed up to post a glowing review. For the other ones, definitely tend to be affiliate marketing and all that mostly..
     
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    #15
    Quoted for Truth.

    If you're looking for honest opinions of products you are going to have to search pretty hard. Forums like this are probably your most likely bet. I generally don't trust any "opinion" if I see even a hint of an affiliate link.
     
    Zibblu, Mar 9, 2009 IP
  16. fireboat

    fireboat Active Member

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    #16
    Advice noted, 2-4-K. +rep to you.

    I know I have a good product that offers sound, professional advice to a very specific niche of customers. I know I have a good pitch page. I know I have excellent customer support and satisfaction. I also know I can make decent affiliate sales by promoting others' products on a couple of my high-traffic sites.

    BUT I must shamefully admit that I really suck as a PPC marketer. I once tried to promote my own products with AdWords and lost a ton of money doing it. I wish I could provide better PPC data to my affiliates- unfortunately, it's not my strongest area.

    - Tim/fireboat

    P.S. I do have a few good affiliates, but of course I'm always looking for more. I have 11% gravity, which isn't bad. But I do make far more non-affiliate sales than I do aff sales. Maybe SEO is my stronger area.

    P.P.S. I think Google would make a lot more in advertising if they simplified their advertising system so more people could understand it. But that's another discussion for another thread.
     
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    Try to find out personal reviews for particular product, On internet major people are doing affiliate marketing and to find out unbiased review is meaning less.

    Think like this, If you are using an blackberry phone and you love it.. but do you give your time to write a 300+ words review and build backlinks for your review? What you do is, either you recommend your friend in forums or in social networking site when your opinion is asked and its only couple of lines recommendation.

    Now tell me why google will rank your unbiased review at top position, its neither content rich nor have any backlinks.

    So my friend, forget about this and focus on making money.
     
    Robert25, Mar 10, 2009 IP
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    I think that's why the conduit method works, don't just repeat the same non-review review page, but just put together a professional listing page that allows the person to just view basic product info and here's how to order.
     
    mlandmark, Mar 12, 2009 IP
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    I noticed that to, when you want a real review of something, everything is just affiliate marketers like ourselves
     
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    I've had sites where I really bought everything I was reviewing - and I would offer negative reviews if I felt they were merited. Interestingly enough, even the negative reviews brought sales. So I think more people should consider calling a spade a spade (i.e. mentioning the downside of a product once in a while) to build trust.

    However, sometimes I am just targeting people searching on a very specific product name or type of product, and they are already interested in buying it, so I don't offer reviews - I just grab sales text and sell benefits and reinforce their interest in the product to make a sale. Sites like these are super easy to set up and if your business model is like mine (build fast,then your'e on to the next site) this works really well. But those aren't review sites they're more a sales copy site.

    Dan
     
    dangregory, Mar 13, 2009 IP