So many sites are banned

Discussion in 'Google' started by hurricane_sh, Jan 14, 2005.

  1. #1
    Recently I came across a few websites were banned by Google, these websites are quite clean in my eyes. One of the them is a company I worked for, online since 1992, the biggest one in its industry in Europe, they have no any SEO idea and only a PR 6 so far. Google seems to be very strict now.
     
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  2. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    #2
    I've never heard of a site being banned and still carrying PR..
     
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  3. hurricane_sh

    hurricane_sh Well-Known Member

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    #3
    It was PR 6 before banned.

    Actually a banned site with PR is quite common, toolbar update is not in real time.
     
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  4. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    I don't think that is possible...
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Normally sites that are banned lose their PR instantly (from the ones that I've seen).
     
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  6. hurricane_sh

    hurricane_sh Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I'm wrong, but when I check if a website is banned, I don't check the PR only, I will also check if the main page is cached, if not, I will treat it as a banned site, and I believe this case is very common.
     
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  7. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    #7
    You can choose not to be cached in robots.txt, which wouldnt mean you were banned...
     
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  8. hurricane_sh

    hurricane_sh Well-Known Member

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    Hehe, that's another story.
     
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  9. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #9
    Sometimes that can be a precursor to being banned or penalized.

    Just ask some directory owners.
     
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  10. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    #10
    Just trying to be difficult this evening, since I'm stuck inside working rather than out boozing... ;)
     
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  11. Estrange

    Estrange Peon

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    Hurricane_sh, I haven't met any banned site yet. Would you be able tell us which site that you think that is banned. Umm I would like to work on it. Pleaseeee? :eek:
     
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  12. leeds1

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    Estrange

    You can work on mine if you want - it may as well be banned for what google cares of it !
     
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    Estrange Peon

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    Ok why not, let me have a look leeds1, I'll give you feedback as PM, if you like to...
     
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  14. billion

    billion G.E.M.

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    Take a look here. This site still has PR and pages indexed in Google but obviously Google suddenly stopped sending them traffic. I can't see any other explanation to this.

    I believe Google can ban sites in different ways as long as it serves their purpose. Sometimes PR is removed, simetimes PR is no longer passed to other site, simetimes pages is no longer indexed and sometimes none of this, just removed from normal SERPS. I can't proof this, it's only based on my experience.

    http://www.alexa.com/data/details/t...pare_sites=&y=r&url=http://www.fact-index.com

     
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  15. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    That site isn't banned though, you can find 50,000 plus pages indexed.. Because the rankings are suffering doesn't mean it is suffering a ban- a penalty of some kind, perhaps.
     
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  16. JonahViaKeyboard

    JonahViaKeyboard Peon

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    #16
    When a site is banned, aren't there zero pages found in the index?

    What is usually the cause when a site's main page doesn't have a cached copy in the index but Google has cache of other pages?
     
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  17. TechEvangelist

    TechEvangelist Guest

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    #17
    I recently worked on two sites that were banned by Google. Both were a few years old, both displayed zero PR, both showed zero backlinks, and both had zero pages in G's database. I think that's the standard way to identify a site that has been banned.

    My solution was to clean up the sites and have the site owners send 'mea culpa' e-mails to G. Both site owners did get responses. One was reinstated in a month, but the other took about five months. The first site was a victim of TP's black hat techniques, and I think G cut them some slack if they 'fessed up and admitted guilt by association with this company, along with a promise never to engage in these practices again. The offenses for the latter site were much more egregious, so it appears that G left them in a penalty situation for a period of time.

    Remeber that dirty tricks only work until you get caught.
     
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    JonahViaKeyboard Peon

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    Thanks, TechEvangelist
     
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  19. Tapanti

    Tapanti Peon

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    It can also occur that you buy an expired domain name that has for some reason being excluded from the index.

    In this situation you can also contact GG letting them know of the change of the domain name ownership.

    I've had a couple of sites with this problem, and in both cases I have received a prompt reply from GG, both in the form of a written message and in the form of domain re-indexation.

    Just remember to be very polite and try to make their job as easy as possible, by sending them enough information, such as the copy of the receipt or invoice of the domain purchase. It's also proven to be helpful in this case, to send a link to the site archived information in the Archive.org database, along with the link to the current web site of course. ;)

    .
     
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  20. rth

    rth Well-Known Member

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    What are/were TP's black hat techniques?

    Thanks,

    Roger
     
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