So Many Browsers! How are you testing?

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by cocoMonkey, Apr 6, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi guys,

    I currently have IE7 and Firefox installed on my pc.

    I do all my sites in css now, and im worried im forgetting about IE6 users -- but i cannot seem to install IE6 with IE7

    How are you guys testing for IE6???

    And other browsers you feel are important.

    Is there any all in one browser that shows how everything displays the page?


    Cheers for any help.
     
    cocoMonkey, Apr 6, 2007 IP
  2. Mooseman

    Mooseman Peon

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    Tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't Netscape able to show how it looks in both IE and FF?

    And it's pretty important to test for IE6 aswell cause many still uses it (WHY?)
    And if you want to test your websites in IE6:
    http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE

    :)
     
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  3. chiz

    chiz Peon

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    @cocomonkey
    Try browsershots.org. Please complete the URL as I'm not allowed to post links yet. =(
     
    chiz, Apr 6, 2007 IP
  4. RovingCalypso

    RovingCalypso Well-Known Member

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    #4
    After making a couple of websites, I've come to the conclusion that if it works in IE6, it'll work in the others. There are exceptions, but IE is hard to satisfy.
     
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  5. DidierE

    DidierE Well-Known Member

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    #5
    I always optimize for IE first.
    Later i'll check with Firefox and Opera and in most cases there are only few corrections to be made.

    Having your site optimized for IE, FF en Opera is already 99.6% of people who will see your site correctly (at least in my niche and according to my AWStats). :)
     
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  6. Diether

    Diether Peon

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    #6
    That's definatly not true.
    If it works in IE6, chances are big that it won't work in IE7 (speaking from the experience of a friend of me).
    And heard that Opera is actually the hardest browser to satisfy. If it works in Opera, it should work in FF as well.
     
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  7. kodut

    kodut Well-Known Member

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    #7
    well you can start a thread here and ask other users to see how the websites look in other browsers
     
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  8. depi

    depi Active Member

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    #8
    I always optimize my websites to the three most used web browsers: IE6, Mozilla Firefox and Opera. I'm developing on GNU/Linux platform so I run IE through emulator like Wine. Also I check my site in IE7, but most time there is everything O.K. - but this is not a rule.

    On Windows I had also installed the older versions of browsers. You can find a great database of most web browsers that ever existed on http://browsers.evolt.org. There are also a standalone versions of IE that can be run without installation. As a curiosity you can find there a Internet Explorer version 1.0 (http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/1.0) and also more rarities, but nowadays I think it is enough to test sites in above mentioned 3 most used web browsers.

    And never forget what is mentioned in attachment :D
     

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  9. kodut

    kodut Well-Known Member

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    #9
    nice one in attachement
     
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  10. depi

    depi Active Member

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    thanks kodut :)
     
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  11. chiz

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    The problem with FireFox and IE is that they have different implementations on even the basic tags and properties. Even in the amount of spacing for em and pixel units. A layout may be ok in FireFox but will wrap in IE. Improve it for IE and it gets destroyed in FireFox. The important thing here is compromise--don't use tags and features that are not supported by a particular browser. That's just my take on this.

    Interestingly, you'll find attached, that browser share on my site has significantly changed over the couple of years. Before, IE is over 75% of the share. Now, FireFox is a tad greater than IE on my site's market share.

    I would again suggest browsershots.org as it's a savior. I design the page, upload it to my server, then let browsershots.org show me the results in various browsers including those for Mac and Linux. I suggest you give it a try.
     

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  12. wmchen

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    #12
    keep web standards in mind when you write codes.
    generally, if your design is no problem under IE7, it should have no problems under IE6 as well.

    you can either test site under IE7 and 6 by install multiple operating system in your machine or just test on ie 6 in office or school.
     
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  13. cocoMonkey

    cocoMonkey Active Member

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    #13
    I've never been lucky with site design.

    Whatever i make -- never looks the same in two browsers.

    I usally work between the two, add somthing, check both, add somthing, check both.

    Now i would say there are three that i must check: IE6, IE7, Firefox.

    I know there are some differnce in IE6 and IE7 -- because as soon as i updated to IE7, i spoted errors on some of my sites that needed fixing.

    I will try and install IE6 with that link Mooseman provided thanks guys.

    :)
     
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  14. nickcmp

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    I know there is an IE Tab for Firefox which shows you how the page would look in IE but I think it only displays your current IE not necessarily IE6.
     
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  15. daryllsheridan

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    #15
    I design using fire fox and then test it using ie 6 & 7, stopped testing off 5.5 just before christmas

    Have a stand alone (virtual?) ie 6 installed

    Ill usually run it though opera at that stage as well (even though ive yet to find a site that is messed up with opera if its working on ie/firefox)
     
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  16. vitaminp

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    #16
    dont forget to test in different resolutions - i find that depending how ive done the css, lower resolutions 'knock' some tags off a little.
     
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    #17
    Attachment rules, eventhough I use FF... :)
     
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    n-james Well-Known Member

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  19. depi

    depi Active Member

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    #19
    FF is there mentioned too, look closer at the picture :)
     
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  20. Louis11

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    I like the "or get firefox" in small text below the Opera logo :p
     
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