Still blindly listening to the government eh lorien? When is the last time you checked the exchange rate between the dollar and the euro? If our economy is so great, and America is number 1, why is the Euro beating the crap out of our currency? You keep believing the 2% inflation rate posted by the government if you want to. They're lying to you lorien. What part of "the government lies" don't you get? Yeah, we basically invaded partly so U.S. companies could get the oil contract and construction contracts. Halliburton and Bechtel get no bid contracts to rebuild after the military destroys the country, and the Vice President held stocks in one of these companies! Answer this question lorien: is it a conflict of interest that the Vice President has stocks in the company that got a no bid contract to rebuild Iraq after the 2003 invasion? Lorien, here is one more question: if the U.S. economy is doing so great, why do we owe over $9 trillion:http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=473963
I am going to have to pick you up (again) on a lame reply GTech. You are here pretty much 24/7 in P&R defending terrorists like Bush and Cheney. What drives you dude? Is it love for these terrorists? Money? A few of us are worried about you dude.
Let's see : A big oil president, a big oil vice president, a big oil sec. of state, an administration loaded down with big corporate types AND we've invaded two oil bearing countries. No, it can't possibly be about the oil ! Neoconservatives are not conservatives - please keep that in mind.
My bad, I misunderstood. You wanted to see lame replies? I can assist you with that Has the thread gone over to the next page enough, now, or should we keep trying a little bit more? The better thing to have done would have been to let the thread die off. You aren't clever enough for that though. psst, the illuminati is peaking in your window RIGHT NOW!
Yeah, you'd think it would be a no brainer to these guys! A ten year old can figure this stuff out! Gtech and lorien don't know the difference between a conservative and neoconservative. They are so confused that they attack Ron Paul A REAL CONSERVATIVE, while glorifying Bush. Here is the breakdown guys: 1. Ron Paul is a conservative:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative 2. Vice President Dick Cheney is a neoconservative:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative Gtech, lorien, please go read the difference between the two. One follows the Constitution. The other doesn't. Can you figure out which one it is?
Lorien, I'm still waiting on you to answer these two questions: is it a conflict of interest that the Vice President has stocks in the company that got a no bid contract to rebuild Iraq after the 2003 invasion? Lorien, here is one more question: if the U.S. economy is doing so great, why do we owe over $9 trillion:http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=473963
the exchange rate with the euro is not what our economy is based on. Most economists look at the exchange rate with the japanese yen for the future of the economy. and that has been rather steady for quite some time now. It's actually better now than it has been in a while. Do you see higher numbers than 2%? I'm in retail Tesla. I do not see major prices differences for any goods and/or services for the past 4 or 5 years Tesla. Gas goes up and down, but that's a supply/demand issue worldwide. Do you have anything, but your own speculation, to show that 2% (or whatever it is) is incorrect? Cheney sold his halliburton stocks, in 2000, I believe because of political pressure. Stupid Cheney actually lost quite a bit of money on that because he should have cashed in a little later. Guess those neo-con conspiracies don't work as well as they used to. The national debt is not an indicator of our economic strength. It is an indicator of our government's inability to control its own spending. Get spending under control and the debt could easily be eliminated in less than 20 years. As a percentage of the GDP, the debt has been worse: http://zfacts.com/p/318.html Is 9 trillion a lot? Sure. Is it manageable. Sure. will the politicians manage it properly? Probably not.
Thanks for digging that post out of your detailed file you have on me you stalker. Some classics in there! I'm trying to save you from yourself GTech, remember that.
This is a tactic that only works on those unwilling to answer pointed questions. I'm not that person, Tesla. but I believe you know who is
Yep, for just $54.95 per year, I could give it all up and allow someone else to think for me. What a bargain!
Well, to be honest, I have never heard that the U.S. bases the future of its economy with the Yen rather than the Euro, but even if this is true, why would the dollar be compared to the Yen rather than the Euro? I've seen the cost of milk increase each time I've been to the grocery store in the last six months. Milk and bread are always a good indicator of the level of inflation. A gallon of milk at the grocery store nearby where I live was about $2.55 four years ago. Today the same gallon of milk is like $3.50 cents. This is one good example of the effects of inflation. Also, in 2003, when I first moved into my current apartment, my power bill was about $83 per month. Last month I paid $179. There is not doubt that the cost of energy has increased in the last four years, and inflation is a definite factor in this. Lorien, you didn't answer this question directly. I asked whether or not it was a conflict of interest, not if Cheney was an idiot for losing money on the Halliburton stocks. Ok, I agree with you that if the government changed its actions, and followed the Grace Commission and balanced its budget, we probably could fix this thing in 20 years. But you admit that the government probably won't. If it won't, and the dollar is already being devalued, what does this mean for the future of the United States?
Not sure. I'm just telling you that is how i've understood it. Probably because of the japanese stock market? Who knows. Panic always sets in when the japanese market goes down very quickly though. Cost of milk and eggs are rising. You make a good point. A lot of that comes from the increased demand of corn for bio-fuels, though. Corn costs rise, the cost to feed the animals that produce milk and eggs rise, therefore the cost of milk and eggs rise. It's not talked about a lot, because of the environmental angle everyone pushes for. Tortillas cost more in mexico for the same reason. It's an actual issue, but the resolution there? Who knows. And its certainly not some neo-con conspiracy. Inflation takes into consideration more than milk and eggs though. You asked if it were a conflict of interest that he owns stock. He doesn't own stock. He sold it all in 2000, right? I'm not sure where the conflict comes in? Future of the US? Not much, I suspect. The vast majority of the debt is owned by US citizens in terms of bonds and securities (I think - I'd have to look up the graph someplace). I'd expect that, first, government would stop paying interest on bonds (they've done it before). The debt, right now, is merely a political talking point when a politician is trying to score cheap points. It'll get interesting in 10-15 years or so when the baby boomers start killing the social security and medicare systems. I suspect benefit cutbacks would be the first steps there. And yes, politicians would wait until the absolute last second to work on the problem. that's the nature of career politicians - why solve now, what some other sucker can solve later on.
I suppose it would GTech, but no need to pay Jones and line his coffers, there are many free websites about that expose the utter lying scumbags that you support.
Here's a story on that egg/milk deal, Tesla http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/05/22/corn.html I'd probably suggest that ending government subsidies to the ethanol industry would help alleviate a little of this. That industry is making a killing of government money, tax incentives from states, etc.
It's been covered before. Were you trying to confirm that cheney's stock options that he had before becoming VP, and donated to charity, are something bad? Or is the "whole" truth important? Note to self. Make up accusations that are baseless or untruthful on the surface, then when corrected, make up some new ones. This keeps the other side busy and since I'm a "troofer," I'm immune from responsibility for truth. Good strategy.
I have no doubt there are people that steal his paid content and put it on their own sites. I seem to remember someone here who did that very same thing. Just reinforces the notion of dishonesty. Pretty sad when his own followers steal his paid content.
Well, he is still receiving payment from the company, even though you are right, he did officially retire in 2000. Though I have to admit, out of all the construction firms in the world, I find it uncanny that Halliburton got a no bid contract instead the others. You have to admit that there is definitely cronyism going on here. If it were another common not connected to Cheney in the past, I would not be able to make such an argument. But because of the past connection, and because of the fact Cheney is still receiving payments, I do think this is a conflict of interest, even though he did sell his stock. This makes sense, though I don't know why their using this stuff in the food if it makes the price higher for consumers.