Slaving Away for the Elusive $100/day

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  1. Burta

    Burta Well-Known Member

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    #41
    Hey! "Website Pimp"... that's what I'm trying to be... :p. I have seen and read so many stories of people making more than just a "living" on the web so I figure it's about time some of us Aussies start doing the same.

    LOL - well forgive me for sincerely hoping your wrong, but I'm sure you appreciate why I have those feelings. I'll definitely keep you guys posted on my EPC in the coming weeks.

    I'll be honest and say that whilst I understand the essential principles of smartpricing, I'm definitely no expert on the matter. I was just wondering are accounts smartpriced or is it more pages that are smart priced. I mean I believe that I have been smart priced before earlier this year when my earnings were reaching the $25/day mark and were then smashed to $10/day due to a EPC drop, so is it possible that smartpricing has already taken effect on my account? or is this a situation of the more your earn the more likely your account will be smartpriced further.

    The more I think about it the more I'm really starting to feel that I'm definitely going to be smartpriced. I mean the majority of my increase in earnings has been a result of aggressive integration of AdSense with my content and I can't help but feel regardless of the quality content you offer that some people have clicked the ads with the belief that it would lead to more content on my site to which they no doubt would have been rudely shocked. So I guess if this is the case I'd have to expect that percentage of actions resulting from clicks from my sites would have drastically dropped.

    "Adsense is Dead" is all just marketing hype, Joel Comm's "AdSense is Alive" is equally just marketing hype and email harvesting. It's my firm belief AdSense isn't going anywhere anytime soon, it has been doing well for the last couple of years and I'm sure it will be doing well for the next couple at least, though I'm sort of thinking that there will be a reduction in EPC in general as I currently think the ROI (Return On Investment) on AdSense for genuine AdWords users just isn't quite there at this point and CPC (Cost Per Click) is probably about 20% overpriced - that's my opinion, but that said the system is based on a very sound economic principle of Supply v Demand - the only thing that could destroy the system is fraud that would hurt advertisers ROI which isn't prolific enough to crash AdSense, IMHO.

    So there are couple years of good earnings to come, if not more.
     
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    #42
    yep , can't think of any reason why it would magicly slow down.
     
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    #43
    Congrats on your milestone.
     
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  4. Burta

    Burta Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Well if it was going to slow down it would slow downbecause of smartpricing, and that has nothing ot do with market, it's just simple economics. If advertisers don't have clicks that turn into actions they don't make money generally which means they aren't willing to pay as much for the clicks from your sites.

    ;)
     
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    #45
    Well, congratulations on your milestone :) 100$ a day is a nice amount. I was doing the crazy dance myself this morning - yesterday I've got $28.28 from AdSense :) which is quite an achievement for me.

    Actually, some strange things are happening to my earnings. It all began this month...

    Last month I was getting 1$ per day on average with occasional spikes to 6 or 8 dollars per day. This month the earnings just keep on climbing :) - every new day brings in a little more than the previous day :) I really hope this trend continues.

    Good luck to us all.
     
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  6. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #46
    Congratulations man, you have every right to be excited about it it's a big milestone to achieve and one we all aspire to as a webmaster. I reached that goal early this year (allbeit for a brief time), but things have slipped off significantly since then. I am now trying to build more sites to try and have a bit more stability, if there is such a thing in the adsense world.
     
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    #47
    So any news on smartpricing then?
    I have to say, as long as you have decent sites running on your account, I think smartpricing will not affect you.
    I have 2 main sites that earn slightly over your ball park, and have been for a few months. They both get 2-4% CTR per day, which I think is why I have not been smartpriced, its a good CTR.

    On the other hand, over the summer i put up adsense on one of my sites that gets about 10,000 daily impressions and about 0.2% CTR, and my earnings dropped 50% from the other two sites.

    So my recommendation, only put adsense on quality sites.

    Pete
     
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  8. roflux

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    #48
    First off congrats! $100 in a day, how excellent for you!

    dsm56, hmm thanks for the helpful post, one question tho, if you create 15 quality websites, and use the adsense code on all of them, then one of the sites gets smartprice, will it affect your other websites? Or just the channel?

    Hope that made sense!

    Cheers
     
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    #49
    Supposedly, smart pricing is account specific not site specific. Therefore one smartpriced site will affect the others too.
     
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    #50
    Yes, everyone is in agreement that the smartpricing affects the accounts, not channels/sites.

    I've been hit by smartpricing myself. I'll tell you this is not the best what can happen to you :) When instead of usual 20c to 1.5$ clicks you start getting 1c to 5c across all your channels you feel like killing yourself ;) Fortunately, in my case, smartpricing was in effect for one week only.
     
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    #51
    hmm okay, that's pretty lame!
    so how did you get.. un-smartpriced? I was thinking of making 15 websites with like 5 pages and make people want to click on the adds, with high paying keywords... but i don't think that's the best idea due to smartpricing... Guess i'll have to make quality websites:p
     
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    #52
    Congratulations. I have never come anywhere near $100 in a single day. That is a strong achievement. Kudos.
     
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  13. baumann93

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    #53
    Well, this is what I've done:
    1. disabled all Google ads on all my sites for one week
    2. emailed Google support explaining the situtation
    3. Verified that none of the pages with Google ad appear in any of the traffic exchanges
    4. Made sure that Google analytics code is NOT placed on any of the pages that are part of any of the traffic exchanges
    5. Enabled Google ads and I was back in business ;)
     
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  14. ThisBuzz

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    #54
    it would be nice to see the occasional positive post, heck it would be somewhat inspirational actually

    ;)

    TB
     
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  15. Burta

    Burta Well-Known Member

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    #55
    Thanks mate. And stability is exactly what I'm looking for as well - I want to feel comfortable in paying for a mortgage on AdSense (though I don't think I'd ever be comfortable paying for a mortgage with a website).


    Well my sites at the moment are holding a fairly stable EPC.


    I'm not following the logic of your suggestions. What would taking your ads off do? If you account is smartpriced it is normally because the people that are clicking your ads aren't converting in to actions at the advertisers' end, or at least that was my understanding of it. So quality of websites really doesn't play "that" much of roles. Obviously the type of site and relevance to the ad topic will play a role (ie - a site about "buying mp3 players" with ads for sites that sell mp3 players is going to convert better than a site that is about bands and their mp3's). Also do you not run analytics on your sites with AdSense on them or something - I wasn't really following this part?


    LOL - you can't blame a guy for telling it how it is.
     
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    #56
    Wow congrats...Im impressed with mine when I hit $3.00 a day.
    haha.
    Hopefully I get to your level soon.
     
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    #57
    I was not suggesting anything :) I simply explained how I solved the problem with my AdSense account.

    Smartpricing is a very interesting thing. Here is a paragraph I copied from AdSense help page:

    "advertisers don't gain as much ROI when paying for generic clicks as they do for quality clicks that come from interest in your content"

    As you can see Google does not like "generic" clicks and one can conclude that Google is very much interested in where your traffic is coming from.

    That is why I removed all the Google analytics code from any pages that I use in traffic exchanges (auto hits, manual exchange, etc) so that Google will not consider my traffic to be of low quality.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    #58
    I'm averaging $50/day. I've cleared the $100 mark, but it was due to a website that hosted my links only for a little while before moving them off the front page.
     
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    #59
    I hear ya. I am not trying to make excuses but I just think we are at a huge disadvantage for various reasons here in Australia. The country is so technologically backward that it makes it difficult to get ahead. Sure you can target US markets but you always do better in markets which you are more intimate with.
     
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    #60
    congrats. Im currently waiting for my breaktrough when someone big decides to link to my website(s)
     
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