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Sitemaps are useless

Discussion in 'Google Sitemaps' started by Torafox, Jul 29, 2011.

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    If you still waste your time with Google sitemaps - it's better spent working on content or backlinks. we've done some extensive experiments on several sites running off the same (very large) MySQL database, each site with 1+ million deep pages and launched near simultaneously. we submitted full sitemaps for some and nothing for others. results across the board were virtually the same - sitemaps absolutely did not matter. in fact, in one case, submitting the sitemap was probably the reason for Googlebot to slow down crawling that site.

    so, in short: if your site has decent internal linking and every deep page is reachable from the root within 2-3 clicks (as it should be) - just forget sitemaps, they're useless.
     
    Torafox, Jul 29, 2011 IP
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    thanks for your valuable view . I like it very much.
     
    kbelly, Jul 30, 2011 IP
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    well, depends upon the scenario. i found google sitemap quite beneficial for me though i don't have millions of pages but it still help full for me in crawling my pages and notifying about the internal linking issues.
     
    aansy, Jul 31, 2011 IP
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    Revasmith Guest

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    Sitemap is very necessary or a site.
     
    Revasmith, Aug 1, 2011 IP
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    I think we should not ignore the incorporation of sitemaps in our website, it should always included for the benefit of both the users and crawlers, for both  to easily navigate through your website. 
     
    glennforum, Aug 1, 2011 IP
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    Content building and back links are useful, no second thoughts but what I don't understand is how you can deny the importance of the sitemaps. They tell the crawlers about the other USLs on the site and they can also give you an idea of the URLs that are recognized by Search Engines in their indexing
     
    unknownpray, Aug 14, 2011 IP
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    sitemaps are only good when you're suddenly adding a lot of pages. i once used a sitemap when i inserted about 130k pages in a site in one day. i thought it would help them get indexed faster, and maybe it did. but now all those pages are indexed, and there is no need to keep a sitemap. not to mention that most of the time the google webmaster tools thing gives me a red X for "sitemap not found" or something like that, even though there is a sitemap

    so it's maybe good at the start if you want to add many pages, but in the long term it's useless
     
    abrakatabra83, Aug 15, 2011 IP
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    Google guide line for SEO said you should have xml sitemap for a site.
     
    joesmith1608, Aug 17, 2011 IP
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    Well we need to make sitemap according to Google webmaster requirement .
     
    hearme, Aug 17, 2011 IP
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    I totally agree, sitemaps are for noobs.
     
    lysoleverywhere, Aug 18, 2011 IP
  11. jlaurier

    jlaurier Greenhorn

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    I do confirm Torafox statement.

    Once by mistake i blocked the folder where there was the site map file. There were no changes in crawling from google.

    On the other hand, i must say the site map has been useless to me. I moved my website from one server to another and one platform to another. I changed the directory tree of my website. 6 month afterwards i still had googlebot searching for old URLs that doesn't exist anymore.

    For me XML sitemap is a waste of time. I ve read Google advise people to use site map to tell what is the real URL for one page when several URL points to the same page. Nevertheless, that is not the proper way to do it. The proper way is canonical and no index metatag.

    Sitemap never sped up indexing or increased indexing.
     
    jlaurier, Dec 22, 2011 IP
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    erjenkins1 Greenhorn

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    I disagree. Sitemaps are not a waste of time, although they shouldn't be used in lieu of backlinks. The two should work together.
     
    erjenkins1, Dec 22, 2011 IP
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    Sitemap act as a backup, in my opinion. If you site has all pages well inter-linked, then it'll be easy for each search engine to explore all pages in your site. But in most case, there are some pages not well linked inside a website, and sitemap play a good part to list all pages that you want to ranked by search engines.
     
    peterst, Dec 30, 2011 IP
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    StWhitey Greenhorn

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    I strongly disagree. Whilst sitemaps are becoming more old fashionned due to quality inter-linking, it still serves as a backbone launching point for the site as nearly every search engine still takes them into account and analyzes them for content, and they can prove useful if done properly.
     
    StWhitey, Dec 31, 2011 IP
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    Well now search engine in the websites took place of sitemaps.
     
    Olivia newton, Jan 1, 2012 IP
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    I disagree with you. Sitemaps helps to index your site inner pages in search engines.
     
    scholarsjunction, Jan 2, 2012 IP
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    Agreed , But search engine used most, people do not go to sitemap, they looking for search option for their required activity.
     
    Olivia newton, Jan 2, 2012 IP
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    i think it useful , while after i submit the sitemap in google webmaster tools, it not help my site ping more frequent and i can see it do help in my SERP in minor changes.
    It help Google to crawl my sites correctly.
     
    JerrickYeoh, Jan 4, 2012 IP
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    Sitemaps are not useless. One must know what is its importance and use before you can say it is useless.

    The fact that through sitemaps, you can determine or set the priorities of your pages over your other pages for the whole portal - and this will guide SE bots in crawling your whole website.
     
    Alexander P., Jan 6, 2012 IP
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    Sitemaps are for crawlers not for people to use. In addition, if you ad 180k pages in one day. Google will think it is spam anyways. What normal website gains 180k pages in a day? That isn't unique content. Which will do more harm then good for your site.
     
    Delirious84, Jan 8, 2012 IP