Sitemap vs Google Sitemap

Discussion in 'Google Sitemaps' started by CaffinePhil, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. #1
    OK apologies if this is a really newbie question but I have a site, it doesnt have many pages at the minute (4 i think). The site will continue to grow to 50+ pages over the next few months. I just have a few questions:

    1) Is there any advantage to submitting a sitemap for such a small site?

    2) What is the difference between a sitemap and a google sitemap?

    Thanks
     
    CaffinePhil, Mar 5, 2008 IP
  2. dairyman

    dairyman Notable Member

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    Better to submit the pages to google now even if the number of the pages are less right at the moment (for faster indexing of the pages by the google)
    Sitemap and google sitemap are one and the same. Just to show that the sitemap is tailor made for google, it is called google sitemap :)
     
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  3. abhig

    abhig Active Member

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    You can submit atom feed as sitemap, that way you don't have to keep doing the work.
     
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  4. glennhefley

    glennhefley Peon

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    The Google xml site map http://www.google.com/webmasters/start/ isn't hard to make and/or maintain. Having both a normal html listing of your pages, and a google sitemap just helps you, so I've never understood the "choice" about this. Do both.

    Having it for a small site? A small site needs all the advantages it can get. I post 3 page sites for some clients, I always put in the sitemap listing and file.

    Uclue.com (the place all the Google Answers Researchers went ), just opened up a Private Question feature, so now you can ask questions and get answers without telling everyone in the world as well. Start Looking for them on YouTube soon as well.
     
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  5. CaffinePhil

    CaffinePhil Banned

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    Thanks glennhefley - I'll go and do that now.
     
    CaffinePhil, Mar 6, 2008 IP
  6. CaffinePhil

    CaffinePhil Banned

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    Just been to the google webmaster tools and signed up. I now know how a Sitemap will help me and how to submit it but how do I create one?
     
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  7. glennhefley

    glennhefley Peon

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    The basic format is an XML file.

    
    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
    <urlset xmlns="http://www.google.com/schemas/sitemap/0.84">
    	<url>
    		<loc>http://www.glennhefley.com/</loc>
    		<lastmod>2006-11-20T09:01:22+00:00</lastmod>
    		<changefreq>daily</changefreq>
    		<priority>0.8</priority>
    	</url>
    	<url>
    		<loc>http://www.glennhefley.com/blogging/index.php</loc>
    		<lastmod>2006-11-20T09:01:22+00:00</lastmod>
    		<changefreq>daily</changefreq>
    		<priority>0.8</priority>
    	</url>
    	<url>
    		<loc>http://www.glennhefley.com/index.php</loc>
    		<lastmod>2006-11-20T09:01:22+00:00</lastmod>
    		<changefreq>daily</changefreq>
    		<priority>1</priority>
    	</url>
    	<url>
    		<loc>http://www.glennhefley.com/blog/</loc>
    		<lastmod>2006-11-20T09:01:22+00:00</lastmod>
    		<changefreq>daily</changefreq>
    		<priority>1</priority>
    	</url>
    </urlset>
    
    
    Code (markup):
    The tags (inside <> ) are
    loc : location
    lastmod: last modified date
    changefreq : how often does this page change
    priority : how do you rate the priority of importance to this page (scale from .01 - 1)

    Copying the record set (between <url> and </url> and putting your information inside the tags will work fine. You don't need all of the information. loc and priority are the only two that are required.

    https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/about.html

    It is a simple text file.. simple as in "just text" so use notepad or your HTML editor to create it.

    There are several Sitemap creators out there, so you might find one that words well for you if all this code stuff is a bore.

    Once you have the sitemap name the file sitemap.xml and put it in the root directory of your web site i.e. http://www.yourdomainname.com/sitemap.xml

    Then go into web master tools at Google and list it. Google will tell you to make a file with some weird code i.e. googlef21b65f6cac47620.html

    Make a file with your HTML editor, and name it as requested. It is a blank file and just lets Google know that you have access to the web site you are claiming.

    In a day or two, check back at the Web Master Tool area and see if there are any errors reported.

    Let me know if you have any problems with that. It is fairly simple for me, but then I've been doing this over 15 years, and I forget sometimes that code is complicated when you aren't use to reading it every day.
     
    glennhefley, Mar 6, 2008 IP
  8. websitetools

    websitetools Well-Known Member

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    I recommend you read this sitemaps article. It explains and have examples of HTML, XML, text etc. sitemaps.
     
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    CaffinePhil Banned

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    Thanks for all the info guys.
     
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  10. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    if you have pages less than 50, i think you dont need to use sitemap
     
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