site now also stolen

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Solicitors Mortgages, Feb 22, 2005.

  1. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #21
    I think he was probably referring to your site.
     
    Crazy_Rob, Feb 22, 2005 IP
  2. mkeen

    mkeen Peon

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    #22
    yeah I mean your site, it works really well in the middle there.
     
    mkeen, Feb 22, 2005 IP
  3. candysmith

    candysmith trying not to be evil

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    #23
    I've had the same thing happen to me.... my entire site uplifted and published to a different domain name and the culorits running all sorts of ads and stuff. Plus they changed the name (but not the images). Just whereever it said SA-Venues, they changed it to SA-TravelInfo. The SAME company did it to us twice, once 2 months ago and once +/- 2 years ago.

    You need to find out who their ISP is and send a VERY threatening letter. Threaten them with legal action because they have stolen your content. If the actual culprit doesn't remove the site, the ISP will, because they are just as culpable as they are hosting stolen material.

    Sh*t I feel for you, this is so upsetting when people try to profit from your hard work. If you need any help or want a copy of my "threatening letters", just PM me.
     
    candysmith, Feb 22, 2005 IP
  4. mkeen

    mkeen Peon

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    #24

    This site isnt stealing content though, they are just wrapping his site around a frame like askjeeves do.
     
    mkeen, Feb 22, 2005 IP
  5. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #25

    I posted that about ten messages ago. I guess people don't like reading. :confused:
     
    Crazy_Rob, Feb 22, 2005 IP
  6. Solicitors Mortgages

    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    #26
    sorry..and thanks
    ...thought you were referring to the other site, we are happy with it.
     
    Solicitors Mortgages, Feb 22, 2005 IP
  7. neterslandreau

    neterslandreau Peon

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    #27
    You could wrap that into a function and then have the function called in your body tag with an onmouseover call. This way the google bot won't be bothered but the visitors will still break out of the frame.
     
    neterslandreau, Feb 22, 2005 IP
  8. nullbit

    nullbit Peon

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    #28
    Except for the few people who don't use a mouse often/at all.

    I don't think the GoogleBot will be bothered anyway.
     
    nullbit, Feb 22, 2005 IP
  9. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #29
    Newbie question, but how did you find out he was stealing your content with an iframe?
     
    fryman, Feb 22, 2005 IP
  10. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #30
    It showed up in the SERPS for one of his keyword terms.
     
    Crazy_Rob, Feb 23, 2005 IP
  11. Solicitors Mortgages

    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    #31
    yep...Salamander did a search for the sites url,

    ...ww*.mydomain.co.uk then checked "find webpages that contain the term"

    it was lurking on page2
     
    Solicitors Mortgages, Feb 23, 2005 IP
  12. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    #32
    Once you see a site showing up for one of your keywords what do you look for to know someone is using an iframe vs a 302 vs cloaking etc?

    I find several entries for my name that I find no reason for being indexed for it.

    Shannon
     
    Smyrl, Feb 23, 2005 IP
  13. explorer

    explorer Well-Known Member

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  14. neterslandreau

    neterslandreau Peon

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    #34
    Rob said he found it in the SERP's which shows a lot of diligence on his part.

    You can also get a clue by seeing a large number of referrals from that page in your logs. Because I'm curious about where my traffic comes from if it's not from a SE, I'd have visited the referring page.
     
    neterslandreau, Feb 24, 2005 IP
  15. Solicitors Mortgages

    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    #35
    To clear up this matter, I received a PM from the owner of
    the website in question. And seeing as he was mature enough at least
    to remove the stolen content from his site, it need go no further.
    I have asked DP to remove the thread which published the full who-is
    information regarding Mr. Stefano Cecconi as it is against the TOS of
    the who-is website.
    however neither of us can do anything about it being published elsewhere, for internet fraud ..like this example which i am sure as an ANTI-EMAIL FRAUD website..is within its rights.
    (scroll to the bottom)
    http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:...count_information).html+Stefano+Cecconi&hl=en

    Perhaps Mr Stefano Cecconi will now appreciates that theft of copyrighted material is also illegal, and will cease from partaking in internet copyright theft
    again in the future. Should it ever happen again then this thread stands as a
    record and will be brought to bear in any such circumstance.

    Below is a copy 'for the record' of the PM i received 02 mar 2005, where the removal (now done..in fact i removed the whole thread as a gesture of goodwill). Interesting how someone stealing your content and going against googles TOS for adsense and seemingly involved in an internet phishing scam, can start pointing out what is legal and what isn't !!

    Anyway..more to the wiser, this issue has now been closed.



    Hi,
    I am the owner of the site you were talking about in the forum www.emanuelebrandi.it
    What you call a site-stealing is simply an internal frame; anyway to avoid any possible future problem I removed frames from my site replacing them with links.

    There is nothing illegal about using frames, but publishing personal unauthorized data of a person on a public forum is certainly illegal. Now provide immediately to remove personal information drawn from WHOIS server, or I will have to contact the owner of the forum in order to take action.

    If there was a problem is much better contacting people directly via e-mail instead of writing insults on a public forum risking real legal actions.
     
    Solicitors Mortgages, Mar 1, 2005 IP
  16. Angus

    Angus Well-Known Member

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    #36
    Its never nice being caught out is it :)

    The break out of frames code works well. Likewise its worthwhile using the google frames page code by default so sites like askjeeves dont rebrand your adsense layout as well.
     
    Angus, Mar 28, 2005 IP