So I think we can all agree then that DMOZ is a very secretive organization, and the existence of rogue editors that engage in stuff like we have observed the the child prn thread, is just something that will be forever kept secret, right?
I am doing that and have been. Now what about you? I'll assume you meant "lose". More bad grammar. Sorry. The current guidelines and atmosphere within DMOZ are repugnant to me. What editor posting there does NOT need to go?
Oh, I seldom go there but when I post I'm never rude. On the contrary, I've been accused of being "too helpful" but without looking to see who else posts there, I'd guess that donaldb has never said anything rude to anyone. I'm sure there are others if we felt like looking.
They are not secretive, they just like to play hide and seek with the truth. Some senior editors hide the truth and then you must find it but this is not because they have any bad intentions, they are just playful and like to amuse other people with their little games.
I've filed abuse reports on metas before - without a second thought. And I'm still here to talk about it. The ODP is not as sinister as you would like people to believe.
<Catch 22>, I go to DMOZ to list my site in oh I dunno, here: http://dmoz.org/Games/Puzzles/Brain_Teasers/Riddles/ I then realize thanks to a few editors that that category gets updated maybe once or twice per year. I think hell, I'd love to edit that category because A) I love riddles and am constantly scouring the web for new riddle sites to tease my brain. B) I think my site is a good resource and should be there as well, hence the original submission. Guess what. I'm disqualified for having a decent site relevant to the category I want to edit. A lot of ODP apologists will tell you this isn't a problem. "There are plenty of editors" (<-- no BS I read that recently here on DP.) Yet categories can sit untouched for over a year and no one at ODP bats an eye. </Catch 22>
Very simple question that no one likes to answer, why does public scrutiny, correct and transparent procedures scares them to death? If there is nothing to hide, why do they go through so much trouble to keep everything secret?
What is the one truly unforgiveable sin in DMOZ? Revealing anything said in an internal forum, even if paraphrasing it and not naming names.
That's simply not true. Not even close to true. The question has been answered uncountable times. People aren't ignoring your trolling because they are scared, they are ignoring it because you bring up the same "issues" over and over and they have all been answered.
So if you give the slightest indication that you will list one of your own sites (in other words being completely honest) when submitting a DMOZ app it might still get approved?
Hmm, could have sworn I read around here, written by an editor no less, that it's not even a good idea to list your site as one of the sites you might add to the directory when submitting your app. I mean like I said I'd actually enjoy listing sites in that category and wouldn't even have any motive to do otherwise considering I only have 1 riddles site .But I still think it would be tough to explain to a reviewer that yeah I plan to list my own site and after that *gasp* I'd actually stay around and list more!
If an editor said that, then they were mistaken. You can use your own site as one of the examples, just be real sure your site is one of the best and make a full disclosure of all your sites, even domains you own but haven't done anything with. You should try again.
You bet. It happens all the time. What gave you the idea otherwise? The usual causes for a denied app are applying for too large of a category (meaning too many unreviewed) or a category that is likely to have lots of affiliate spam. Another would be poor spellingor using sites in your app already listed in the directory. I usually try to encourage applying for a small town in your area under the regional section of the ODP. Be sure to read the guidelines 2 or 3 times and save a copy of your app. Many good editors had to try 2 or 3 times before being approved. Try again and good luck.
Of course - a number of editors have used their site as one of the suggestions in their application. I did. I just went and checked my edit history - adding my site was the second edit I ever made - from there I went on to make another 8600 edits after that (not all on my site ). The issue may be that the category your site fits into is not a good category for a new editor - in that case you would need to start in a noncompetitive category and learn about editing. Eventually, if you find you enjoy it, you can work in different categories and gain enough experience and may be approved for the category your site fits into.