Site Is 7 Years Old But Zero Images Indexed In Google

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  1. jvfconsulting

    jvfconsulting Active Member

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    #21
    Over the weekend I cleaned up our code and added alt tags, I'm really hoping this helps gets us indexed now.
     
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    jvfconsulting Active Member

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    #22
    Oh yeah, I also added a bunch of images to our /images folder, then in our robots.txt added a line that says Allow: /images. If this test experiment doesn't work, I'm going to go crazy! lol Here's an image you can hit that's in our /images folder... Let's see what happens. http://www.jvfconsulting.com/images/logo.gif
     
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    #23
    your robots.txt does not look at all valid to me at all.

    example
    Disallow: /amass = deny a file called amass

    should end in a / for a directory
    plus the first one above would probably deny the second anyway.

    set a section in your robots txt as
    That should let the image bot get what ever it finds.

    have a read of http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=156449
    and then test your robots.txt for Googlebot-Image in google webmaster tools


    then when you have it correct you will have to wait.
    Googlebot-Image does not crawl as often or as fast as their other bots as far as i can tell.
     
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    jvfconsulting Active Member

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    #24
    Thanks for the help Vagrant, but our robots.txt is valid. Here is a screenshot of it in webmaster tools to prove that its legit and working properly.
    [​IMG]
     
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    #25
    Hmm...I'm inclined to believe that your first Disallow rule is going to override the next two rules, as vagrant suggested.

    Just because it's valid doesn't mean it's doing what it's supposed to.
     
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    jvfconsulting Active Member

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    #26
    Is there anyway to make it crawl those pages within amass then? I see Google is doing the same thing we're! http://www.google.com/robots.txt

    Disallow: /patents?
    Disallow: /patents/
    Allow: /patents/about
     
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    #27
    Since Google is doing it, I guess you can follow their example.

    Also, Google will not index images unless they are linked to from a page (<img>), and I believe having an alt text and title (an HTML title attribute) helps. Those are what provide the keywords, it has little to do with image filenames. (Although if your filename matches the keyword it will probably show up)
     
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    jvfconsulting Active Member

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    #28
    Like you said Ulquiorra, we're following Google's example, and its testing fine in webmaster tools, so there shouldn't be a problem.

    Another example taken directly from Google's robots.txt http://www.google.com/robots.txt
    Disallow: /safebrowsing
    Allow: /safebrowsing/diagnostic

    as you can see "safebrowsing" is a directory. And there is no "/" after it.
    "safebrowsing/diagnostic" is used on the line below it with no "/" after it, and its a directory.
     
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    #29
    Hey there, here are some tips for image optimization. I'm sure a lot of these are common sense, but I can't access your site at the moment (at work):

    BTW, if your images are referenced or linked to in pages under the /amass/ folder, that may not be ideal.

    - Use descriptive ALT tags that describe the image
    - Use relatively short file names with keywords in them
    - Have images in the appropriate CONTEXT - meaning wrap them with good, meaningful copy
    - Use high quality images - if the same image is out there in better quality, Google will tend to use that instead
    - If you link to images, use relevant anchor texts
     
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    #30
    Thanks for the help sevnrock! I hope you were able to access our website, it has not been down and is on a liquid web server that is 100% up time. Just reading over your tips. I hate to believe that images linked to pages in my /amass/ folder is not ideal. To prove this I setup an /images/ folder with images that are being used on our blog. So if images get indexed in that folder and not the /amass/ folder then your theory will prove correct. I'm still waiting to see. Here is the logo located in our /images/ folder that is still not indexed in Google images.
    [​IMG]
     
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    #31
    Thanks Kidsko, I have images within an /images folder and they're still not being indexed! I found a helpful link that shows how to add image locations into a sitemap. I've implemented this. Now I just have to wait and see what happens. http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=178636

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
     <urlset xmlns="http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9"
      xmlns:image="http://www.google.com/schemas/sitemap-image/1.1">
     <url>
       <loc>http://example.com/sample.html</loc>
       <image:image>
         <image:loc>http://example.com/image.jpg</image:loc>
       </image:image>
       <image:image>
         <image:loc>http://example.com/photo.jpg</image:loc>
       </image:image>
     </url> 
    </urlset>
    PHP:
     
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    #32
    lol wish I had your problem--my images are usually some of the first things up, then they pop up soon afterward smacked up on someone else's site XD

    You sure nothing is preventing the bots from getting in there? Are they nested really deep or is your robots file getting in the way?
     
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    #33
    That's one heck of a long URL!

    http://www.jvfconsulting.com/amass/thumbnail/aGVpZ2h0PTYwMHx3aWR0aD04MDB8ZmlsZT0vaG9tZS9qdmZjb24vcHVibGljX2h0bWwvYW1hc3MvbGlicmFyeS8xMS9pbWFnZXMvc2NyZWVuX2lwYWNfMDEuanBn/screen_ipac_01.jpg
    Code (markup):
     
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    #34
    I think you need to delete this line in your robots.txt

    Disallow: /amass
    Code (markup):
    Your images are behind the amass folder, in your image URLs.

    When you created that new image folder, did you ping your blog/site or any new blog post/pages, If not you'll be waiting a few days for G to come back to crawl that new image folder.

    Your telling Google to not crawl any of your images, that's why they are not inside Google-Images.
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2010
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    jvfconsulting Active Member

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    #36
    Thanks slimjim, but I cannot remove "Disallow: /amass" from my robots.txt file. I CANNOT let Google index my custom Content Management System. I 'm disallowing spiders to crawl our content management system because of all my custom scripts and technology I've wrote myself.
     
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    #37
    Check your html codding may be your search is hidden from google search. it is possible that google crawler not getting what is on you site. If all looks fine in html page then maybe google band your domain and kept them in sandbox. It's happan because of spamming or unwanted content place on website. Google crawler now become strike for users.
     
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    #38
    just backup all images on disk

    delete all images

    and upload them again

    Make sure u have full cpanel backup before u try this

    some time its file permission issue or owner issue

    Regards

    Alex
     
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    jvfconsulting Active Member

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    #39
    We have never spammed anyone and are not banned or blacklisted from Google at all! We have over 1580 pages of our site indexed in Google. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source...ng.com&btnG=Google+Search&fp=fe155b942c5a4a8a
    Also our php is not hiding anything, that statement is very confusing. Did you see a problem when viewing the source of our page? If so please let me know specifics.
     
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    Thanks Alex, but our images are all 777 and already have full read write access. I've also never heard of permission issues being a problem. Can you back that up?
     
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