Site all-but-vanished from Google overnight

Discussion in 'SEO' started by SmallPotatoes, Jun 7, 2008.

  1. snowbird

    snowbird Notable Member

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    #41
    This might work if the domain had a manual penalty assigned and whatever problems cleaned up prior to submitting a reconsideration request. But changing ownership and leaving the same content, backlinks, would make no difference to an algorithm assigned penalty.
     
    snowbird, Jun 9, 2008 IP
  2. Tearabite

    Tearabite Prominent Member

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    #42
    Bend over and take it with a smile like the rest of us ->:D
     
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  3. Highena.com

    Highena.com Active Member

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    #43
    I had an upturn in visitors end of may/early june, then now dropped down again last few days. After reading so many posts here that others are experiencing similar (in some cases a lot worse) what's the general consensus? Do we sit still and wait and see? Or begin to panic and start working out what we've done wrong?
     
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  4. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #44
    Same a lot of PR6 inner pages, the site has got PR8 & PR7 natural backlinks and my site ranks for it's URL, cached dates are fresh and Googlebot even chews over 2GB of bandwidth a month but Google sends no visitors.

    I can query a unique 10 word title from a PR6 page, and my site is one of the last from just 300 odd results. I even have PR N/A splogs with "Warning this site will harm your computer" out ranking me, when they only contain a few words of the search term scattered on the page.

    It's disgusting, if Google's aim is to deliver the most relevant search results they fail.

    Agreed and i think mostly they aren't even read, i bought a domain from auction and it was banned from the get-go. I filed a reinclusion with all the proof under the sun i was the new owner, with the auction and Whois URL/Details and nothing...

    No but i've tried everything else, i even tried blocking a section of the site with robots.txt and nofollow so it deindexed and then opened the flood gates again hoping the content coming back in to the index from scratch would shake it but it didn't work.

    Even new pages linked from the homepage don't rank, the whole domain has been hit.
     
    sweetfunny, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  5. mika.kontera

    mika.kontera Guest

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    #45
    I'm from Kontera. I'd like to clarify that there is no relation between Kontera ads and search engine results. Since ContentLink ads are javascript, they are not counted as links or anything similar by Google.
    What was mentioned above is indeed, a coincidence.

    If anything, having Kontera ContentLink ads on a site can help SEO efforts:)
     
    mika.kontera, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  6. aaheroe

    aaheroe Active Member

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    #46
    i checked site:mysite.com

    the first result is not my index/hom page and this mean still got problem :D


    cannot do any thing except keep update my site :D
     
    aaheroe, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  7. LinksAndTraffic

    LinksAndTraffic Peon

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    #47
    It depends on where you pull your numbers. Even if the numbers are as high as 85%, it does not matter, if you follow my original advice.

    My original advice was to look at Google for traffic, but also diversify your traffic sources. If you put all of your hopes and prayers on Google, you might be out of business with a single fluctuation of the Google SERPs.

    As I stated, Google only accounted for 52% of my own search traffic, and search engines only account for 48.8% of all of my traffic, in 2007. That breaks down to 25.38% of all of my traffic being derived from Google in 2007, and Google sent me 61,923 visitors in 2007.

    This year looks even better from Google, because they sent me 11,000 visitors of 26,515 visitors just last month, in May of 2008. Google seems to be performing for me a bit better last month, accounting for 41.5% of my global traffic in May. Even with Google's better numbers on my site, my original point still holds water, as 58.5% of my traffic in May came from somewhere besides from Google.

    If Google were to change their SERPs tonight and my website was to disappear from Google's SERPs, I would only lose 2-in-5 visitors to my website. If I had to, I could survive on 60% of my current income level, although I would prefer if I did not have to do so.

    In a nutshell, I recommend that you should diversify your traffic sources so that you don't have to find out what will happen if Google does not send you traffic.
     
    LinksAndTraffic, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  8. LinksAndTraffic

    LinksAndTraffic Peon

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    #48
    Yes.

    What it boils down to is that Google feels that whomever was operating the site when it got banned will probably do again the bad things that got it banned previously.

    But, when the site ownership changes, the new owner should not be penalized for the actions of the previous owner.

    This is true also.

    Both people in my example stated that they had fixed what got them banned in the first place, but Google would not give them the time of day concerning re-inclusion until they had changed ownership.

    Maybe they don't do this anymore. The two cases I cited happened over two years ago.
     
    LinksAndTraffic, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  9. abdul.pcet

    abdul.pcet Peon

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    #49
    If your content is copied then there is no of escaping from google.
    Google never excuse copycats :))
    Best of luck..
     
    abdul.pcet, Jun 11, 2008 IP
  10. SmallPotatoes

    SmallPotatoes Peon

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    #50
    Ok, I've been looking into this a little more.

    1) There are four different hostnames that point to the same content (they're just CNAMES, it comes out of the same directory on the same server). I notice that searching for backlinks for each of these hostnames returns identical results. Anyway, I changed this so that they all 301 to a single domain.

    2) Today I discovered that someone I'd given some server space to had installed a horrible guestbook script that had attracted over 1 million porn links. I just removed the script, robots.txted the directory it was in, and submitted a removal request via Google webmaster tools.

    However, I was under the impression that different sites on the same IP address wouldn't be penalized if there wasn't any other connection between them. The site with the guestbook had no cross-linking with my sites, and didn't even have a thematic connection. Is it still possible I am being punished for this?
     
    SmallPotatoes, Jun 16, 2008 IP
  11. snowbird

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    #51
    @ sweetfunny

    Don't know what to tell you, or myself for that matter. About the only way to recover from this penalty, if that's what it really is, would be to move to a new domain and start building links from scratch. :(
     
    snowbird, Jun 19, 2008 IP
  12. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #52
    That would work, i took an article off the site that was PR6 and published it on a blogspot blog with 1 backlink and it beat the original.

    But it would be a lot of work, and probably more then i'm willing to put in to it. The site went through a viral stage where it gathered a lot of natural links and that would be hard to replicate again.

    It's currently got a big Yahoo banner and link on it explaining Google's lack of wisdom and i'm directing all the regulars to Yahoo Search if they are looking for specific pages on the site. I'm noticing increasing numbers of Yahoo referrals so it's starting to work.

    If Google doesn't want to send me visitors, i'm sending my visitors to their competition and not using Google Adsense to monetize it anymore.
     
    sweetfunny, Jun 19, 2008 IP