I believe that there are people who are successful with affiliate marketing. And I'm seriously considering joining SSEC. However, right before I got ready to enter my credit card info I took a step back and thought. If all of these programs are true, how come when you challenge one of the members to make you "believe" they won't sponsor you in. For instance. If someone would pay my way into SSEC I would give them triple their money back if it actually worked. And I would be dedicated to the program and work the system 100% correctly. I have contacted a few people who use it and say they're making loads of cash. But amazingly these rich people aren't willing to risk it to prove a point. Now I know some people will say "they don't want people competing with them" and I understand that. However it would piss me off if people didn't believe in something I was doing. Maybe I'm just ranting. Actually I'm sure I am. But just once I want one of these "gurus" to show the guts to prove me wrong.