Simplest cheapest way to select keywords

Discussion in 'Keyword Tracker' started by johnegood, Oct 18, 2008.

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    I'm very suspicious that many of the tools that suggest relevant words are not accurate in terms of what the big volume terms are.

    I try to rely on Google since it is the main engine.

    At the bottom of a google page of results, google suggests some refinements. For instance, if I search on the word "math", google suggests;

    math games multiplication match math facts
    math test math formulas math fractions pre algebra

    I'm assuming that these are the highest volume terms that incorporate the original term.

    It's free. It's simple. It's straight from the source. It's a little time consuming but it allows me to get up close and personal with my search terms.

    Any thoughts?
     
    johnegood, Oct 18, 2008 IP
  2. thanhclix

    thanhclix Peon

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    Why don't you use google adword 's keyword suggestion?
    It is faster.
     
    thanhclix, Oct 18, 2008 IP
  3. discuss4u

    discuss4u Well-Known Member

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    I always use the refinement thing and I think this is one of the best ways to do the keyword research.
     
    discuss4u, Oct 19, 2008 IP
  4. johnegood

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    Speaking of refinements, here's another shot at the topic.

    There is only one good source of info on keywords. It's google. I use:


    1 The Adwords keyword tool which gives me an average searches for a keyword (I think over the last year), last month’s searches, and the keyword competition.
    2 Google trends which gives volumes of searches for a word or keyphrase for the last five years.
    3. Look at the bottom of a regular search on google where they recommend related searches. For instance, if you search for the word math, at the bottom of the page, Google will suggest: math games - multiplication match - math facts - math test - math formulas - math fractions - pre algebra
    4. The adwords keyword tool also can give you suggested of related terms.

    Thanhclix - The adwords keyword tool is good when I'm doing a big project. But sometimes I'm just writing a apge and I want a few quick suggestions of what terms to include. At that point, the search function is really helpful.
     
    johnegood, Oct 19, 2008 IP
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    The free tool on trellian keyword search is also useful when used in conjunction with the google keyword tool. I often use it to double check results.
     
    DomainGamer, Oct 19, 2008 IP
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    Would anyone know where to find a good short primer on learning to use keywords in one's blog work? Should a person just jump into the tools mentioned above? Should one just write the article that matters at the moment and then go back and sprinkle in a few relevant keywords? Any help on getting started on keywords analysis in the context of a blog would be appreciated.
    regards

    Wayne
     
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  7. johnegood

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    I'm not sure there is one. Mostly, the endless writing about keywords is very detailed or "how to"ish. I'm not sure that I've ever read a basic conceptual primer of keywords and keyphrases. I've given a talk which covers that a few times so I have a good 15 page powerpoint on it.

    I'll tell you what. Stay tuned to my blog: "Intermediate seo" - I'll put something up in the next week.
     
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    Hey! How do we use the google adWords keyword searching tool. I have a google adwords account but where do I foudn that tool? i have been in search for a long time. Thanks
     
    fireworking, Oct 29, 2008 IP