Shouldn't America be returned back to the Native Americans ( Red Indians ) ?

I didn't proved you're point - quite the contrary . In fact that quite impossible since you've contradicted yourself in the OP . Jews are attested by the year 1200 BC so before Arabs . You agree with Iran but not with Israel althou the situation is similar . Actum Est .

 

Persians were not driven out of the country nor their citizens were killed . So can you tell me how older are Jews Compared to Arabs ? Also why don't we go back more a bit to the ancestors of Arabs , didn't they live there or did they come from another planet - same goes for Jews - ?

 

Well my time is non of your business , Yeah I have enough time to monitor everything , I started this topic to talk about Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine . I proved my point , you guys didn't find one logical response to my points . Plus would you give us a better solution than the army ? Maybe we should give it to the brotherhood to manage the transitional government , Would that be better ? or Start the presidential elections too early before anybody is ready except the brotherhood ?

Again , Your continuous requests to change the topic's point to other middle eastern countries rather than Israel Proves that you are in the weak side . Thank you !

 

Ya right , that's why when their country is invaded all citizens rejoice .

I gave you simple to follow link with short text . Can't you just follow it ?

We are talking about the geographical presence of a nation not about the 1st homo sapiens in the middle east .

 

I like this assertion: "I think we should return Hawaii to its 1959 borders which would then make Hawaii not a state and Obama not a president... "

 

you guys crack me up lol

 

Haven't you read the bible? I mean I obviously won't ask you if you read any historic documents for the same reason as before as I do not expect logic from a "believer".
But the bible, you've read it didnt you?
Particularly this part:

So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey--the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites.


No?

In case translation does not suit you, here some others:


New International Version (©1984)
So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey--the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites.

New Living Translation (©2007)
So I have come down to rescue them from the power of the Egyptians and lead them out of Egypt into their own fertile and spacious land. It is a land flowing with milk and honey--the land where the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites now live.

English Standard Version (©2001)
and I have come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land to a good and broad land, a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"So I have come down to deliver them from the power of the Egyptians, and to bring them up from that land to a good and spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanite and the Hittite and the Amorite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
I have come to rescue them from the power of the Egyptians and to bring them from that land to a good land with plenty of room [for everyone]. It is a land flowing with milk and honey where the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites live.

King James Bible
And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

American King James Version
And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land to a good land and a large, to a land flowing with milk and honey; to the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

American Standard Version
and I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Amorite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

Bible in Basic English
And I have come down to take them out of the hands of the Egyptians, guiding them out of that land into a good land and wide, into a land flowing with milk and honey; into the place of the Canaanite and the Hittite and the Amorite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And knowing their sorrow, I am come down to deliver them out of the hands of the Egyptians, and to bring them out of that land into a good and spacious land, into a land that floweth with milk and honey, to the places of the Chanaanite, and Hethite, and Amorrhite, and Pherezite, and Hevite, and Jebusite.

Darby Bible Translation
And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good and spacious land, unto a land flowing with milk and honey, unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

English Revised Version
and I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Amorite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

Webster's Bible Translation
And I am come down to deliver them from the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them out of that land, to a good land, and a large, to a land flowing with milk and honey; to the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

World English Bible
I have come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land to a good and large land, to a land flowing with milk and honey; to the place of the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Amorite, the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

Young's Literal Translation
and I go down to deliver it out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to cause it to go up out of the land, unto a land good and broad, unto a land flowing with milk and honey -- unto the place of the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Amorite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

 

u know the different between bible and quran ?
bible has changed a lot , so there is no original bible at the moment
but quran hasn't been changed since 1400+ year
so thats why the quran still legit and bible not
i believe in bible but not as it is now

 

Yes, you haven't been re-writing and re-translating your books to suit your fancy as Christians did, I give you that.
I wonder how many times it was re-translated and re-written even before that first specimen of bible in Greek.

 

Oh I like that one...Can we return Texas to its 1845 borders and get rid off Bush?...Well, too late I guess, the pain is done already... But I like the assertion though..

 

Those made me laugh hard . First Links you gave showed around 200 years difference , Which means the nearly existed at the same time . You didn't answer this because either you don't know the answer and just copied the links like a 13 years old kid can do , or your point was proven wrong so you didn't dare to answer it .
Homo sapiens ? Are you kidding me ? I'm saying lets go back 4,000 years instead for 3,000 when Jews didn't even exist Plus , Jews who lived in Palestine 2000 - 3000 years ago are immigrants from Egypt as the Pharaoh was butchering them , They have never owned Palestine .

 

This doesn't make any sense , Because those are completely two different cases , Well from what I've heard , The US Bought Hawaii , I don't know about Texas , But This isn't the case in the Palestinian - Israeli Conflict where Israelis occupied the lands by force .

 

Not sure how that's gonna work seeing as how he's from Connecticut.

 

1) The Arabs expelled all the Jews out their countries.
2) Israel is the homeland of the Jews

"Within a few years by the Six Day War (1967) there were only remnants of Jewish communities left in most Arab countries. Jews in Arab countries were reduced from more than 800,000 in 1948 to perhaps 16,000 in 1991.[97] Most Jews in Arab countries eventually immigrated to the modern State of Israel,[97] and by 2003 they and their offspring, (including those of mixed lineage) comprised 3,136,436 people, or about 61% of Israel's Jewish population.[98] As of 2011 the Jewish refugees from Arab countries and their descendants (including those of mixed lineage) number between 3,500,000 - 4,000,000."

Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

 

History is full of this kind of situation, nobody has gained their land the pacific way. Now to people it might sound more awful as it's a 'recent' case.
I still agree though, that land should have been left to the natives. It would have in the Care Bears world.

 

Thank you for mentioning "Within a few years by the Six Day War (1967)" so that was after the occupation of Palestine already by Jews Which is a clear case , Jews had already started mass immigration since the establishment of Israel not only since then . But after 1967 they were afraid that Abdel-Naser would make another Holocaust so they fled out of the Arab Countries to Israel . If you want to answer your question , then ask yourself why did all these wars happen ? What is the reason for the Persecution of Jews in Arab countries that made them fled out to Israel ? It's because of the Jewish occupation to Arab lands already and killing of innocents during the wars .

Regarding "Israel is the homeland of the Jews " , Sorry dear Are you Secular ? Well if you were , then I doubt that you'd say that . A country is meant to be a group of organizations , Group of people and families of different Religions and ethnicities living together in peace where everybody has the right to practice his own religion . There's no such thing as country for Jews or Country for Muslims , This is very Barbaric my dear . I already don't agree with many Arab Countries but this doesn't mean what Israel is doing to be considered right .

Thanks . Hope this answered your question .

 

and as wise men says, only change is constant.

 

Yes, I saw your posts speaking out against Iran, Syria, Libya, Pakistan,Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Somalia, etc., etc., etc. .

You think any of those countries hit these kinds of percentages of non-Muslim?

Israel population by Religious affiliation
Jewish 5,569,200 75.5%
Muslim 1,240,000 16.8%
Christian 153,100 2.1%
Druze 121,900 1.7%
Unclassified by choice 289,800 3.9%


Hmmm.. lets look at one of the more "Secular" arab nations, namely the one you reside in, Egypt.

Egypt population by Religious affiliation
Muslim 93,5%[8] (Sunni > 99%, Shia < 1%)
Christianity ~6%[9] (Coptic Christian). Other estimates range between 5% and 18% Christian.
Bahá'í: less than 2,000 individuals (< 0.003%).
Judaism: less than 200 individuals.

Yah, I can see the racist state of Israel is the big problem in your part of the world. You may not call it an "Arab nation" or an "Islamic Nation", but that is simply a matter of naming.


Other interesting facts about Egypt's "Secular" state

 

1967? El Mufti Muhammed Amin al-Hussein, the uncle of Mohammed Yasser Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini (Arabic: محمد ياسر عبد الرحمن عبد الرؤوف عرفات القدوة الحسيني‎‎ worked with Hitler to exterminate the Jews since 1920.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php






Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism

[video=youtube;d51poygEXYU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d51poygEXYU[/video]

 

I don't think Arab countries are the point of my topic to talk about here , many Arab systems are corrupt but this is not my point . I'm talking in particular about Israel - The illegally built state - If you are trying to change the topic then this means that you fail to respond to my questions . I have already asked you many questions and you haven't responded to any . All what you say is Arab countries are also bad , Well I tell you , If the majority people are not honest , does this give you the right not to be honest too ? ( This is just an example though I don't mean the Arabs by "not honest" , Hope you understand it because it proves your point to be wrong ) .

Well , What you said only made me laugh . This doesn't prove your point on the contrary it proved my point. I was not arguing about having a dominant population from a certain religion , I was arguing about establishing a country for people from a certain religion which is what Israel have done . Egypt or any other Arab Country are already with dominant Muslim population , Just like your country , You have dominant Christian population .

Look , I think you are not too smart to understand my point of the topic , I'm going to try to give you an example a 10 years old kid can understand :

Well , There are around 2-4 Million Muslims in The USA , What if they decide to take New York and make it a separate country for Muslims in the US with a separate government and army and allow Muslims from any country to immigrate to it and take the nationality , And then when it becomes over populated we invade other parts of your country to take another state . How would that idea sound to you ? This is nearly the same to what Israel had done

So do you agree with :
-Building countries for Jews alone
-Building countries for Hindus alone
-Building countries for Christians alone
-Building countries for Muslims alone
-Building countries for Atheists and Agnostics alone

Is a country supposed to be built for some group of people ? Why didn't you answer my question : Why can any Jew get the Israeli nationality very easily where others can't ? Why did massive amounts of Jews immigrate to Israel and not divided into other countries ?

Again , What you are trying to say in another words is " Yes , Israel is a racist based religious (Jewish) state for Jews based on taking the lands of Arabs as some of there ancestors lived there , But Arabs are also Racists !! So Israel has the right to be a racist country built on a religious belief "

Hope you got it this time .