Should parents be banned from teaching religion to their children?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Seqqa, Sep 10, 2010.

  1. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #41
    .... Blasphemy? How is it blasphemy exactly? The act of hating one more than the other isn't blasphemous at all. Hating them, by a religious person's definition, is probably blasphemous - but how exactly does that effect me? And more to the point, you're an idiot for the belief that hating one more than the other is the "blasphemous" part of all this. /facepalm
    Ridiculous.

    Also, I believe in facts. In Islam, child marriage happens - fact. It also happens in other religions, and no one said differently. Or do you believe no child has been married in recent times is an Islamic ceremony?
     
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  2. laxman363

    laxman363 Active Member

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    #42
    I also know more:).I know that this place is to be honest atheist dominated with you,helveti,will spencer,stox etc.:)But i don' mind that until everyone respects other's perception and if not believe in god than at least be against clear wrong deeds like hurting others etc.:)
     
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  3. supernal

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    #43
    Of course not, but fanaticism and extremism of any kind on any level should be carefully moderated. There's nothing wrong with teaching religion to a child, but there is something wrong with telling them that it is the only way, with telling them that if they don't believe they will burn in hell forever more, and with disallowing them to learn the scientific method so that they can make better sense of the world.

    Thanks to Christian missionaries in Sub-saharan Africa preaching that using a condom is a sin, the natives are spreading around the AIDS virus much more effectively than they ever should.
     
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  4. The Peoples SEO

    The Peoples SEO Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Listen guy's cut the crap already. Using religion to keep kids out of trouble is not abuse. Without religion, this world would have never been civilized. Religion paid the way for laws, so if a parent want's to put fear in a kid that sinners go to hell then its none of your business. My kids have never been in a church, or know who god is but that doesn't mean I don't know the importance of religion. Without religion this world would be out of control. It was religion that allowed us to come out the caves, so stop it with the "force religion on kids crap" worry about your own dam kids...

    Have a nice day :p
     
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  5. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #45
    you have just made all of that up.
     
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  6. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #46
    You can't really put the blame on them . Sub-Sahara is the definition of nowhere , hell that region is devoid of any political protection , I can't even imagine what the hell you can do to improve living conditions in that place .
     
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    #47
    Not telling them lies about the effectiveness of condoms would be a good start.
     
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  8. The Peoples SEO

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    #48

    No it was you that allowed us to come out of caves... Religion had nothing to do with it...
     
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  9. ApocalypseXL

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    #49
    I think they had one to many "good starts " . And they're just opposing the use of condoms not lieing that condoms are ineffective .
     
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    #50
    Good start? Africans have been the most repressed people on the planet. They have the richest diamond mines on the planet, yet they live in poverty, while their diamonds are being shipped out elsewhere. Half the population don't even know where their next meal is coming from, and here you are talking about Africans as if they don't deserve a better life. You were born in a nice warm hospital, and them on a hut floor, yet you say that have had good starts?
     
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    #51
    The pope has said during a visit to Africa "[Aids] cannot be overcome by the distribution of condoms; on the contrary, they increase it."

    Even the Lancet has criticised him for "distorting scientific evidence to promote Catholic doctrine".

    He is lying to people and has undoubtedly caused the deaths of thousands.
     
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    #52
    Lol... How do we ensure that....
    It's not practical.

    For the religious, it is not something different from their routine day to day life.
    Prayer , worshiping etc are a part of their daily routine and the children would follow that...

    Come on, You cannot have a Onion dosa without Onion. ( Madrasi .... Please control :p)

    Okay, You are asking for a cheese sandwich without cheese.
     
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  13. Jackob2916

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    #53
    I think parents should not forcibly ask children to follow religion instead of it if they ask them in proper manner than it will be good for both of them. According me religion should be in each and every person but it depends, here issue is different if children are grown up in religious atmosphere than it would be good for individual as well as society also.

    by forcing them its not good but if parents explain them what are its benefits than it would be obviously helpful.
     
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  14. Seqqa

    Seqqa Well-Known Member

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    #54
    Exactily I was branded a christian before I could even count to 10. Being less than a year old and and taken to a church in what can only be discribed as table cloth and then having cold water poored over my head just so I can basically start crying, but then again the church does have a weird attraction to little childen in more ways than one.
     
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  15. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #55
    You might want to back up your claim that "children get married in Muslim countries" is a regular occurrence. It isn't quite the norm here in Malaysia, or anywhere else in the Muslim world.
     
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    #56
    [video=youtube;jDLb2GuIM3Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDLb2GuIM3Y&feature=related[/video]


    [video=youtube;SsExiAbCk1A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsExiAbCk1A&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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    #57
    I took a look at that article and it seems that his campaigning for abstinence and monogamy being a superior way to prevent HIV infection . Without knowing the exact words , I can say that although the current pope isn't even half of his predecessor his not dumb enough to openly attack the usage of condoms .
     
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    #58
    Hide yo kids, hide yo wifes, hide you husbands cause they rapin' errbody here!

    Honestly, Why would anyone say "Oh Muhammed had sex with a 9 year old, now we can too".
    Thats just like starting your own religion with a murderer as a leader and then say it's 100% legal to run a round knifing people.

    I do not think kids should be though that there is a god that stands over every human, punishing them for any mistakes.
    I do however know that it's easy to say to a kid that when someone dies, they go to heaven. But thats not even close to
    raping them.

    Religion is IMHO a stupid thing created to gain power over stupid people in this world. it has been used too many times to
    spread fear and hate. Even though I hate religions with a passion I do not think that banning it will make it better.
    It just has to die off by it self.
     
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  19. love**

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    #59
    If parents gives the wrong knowledge about
    religion,they should definitely spoil their children's
    life because religion does not change the relation
    between people.A big example is Friend,when we make
    a friend we didn't see whether he or she should be
    of our religion.GOD is one which is same for every
    religion.
     
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  20. alexispetrov

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    #60
    It is a regular occurrence - although, luckily, not common place. Here's something for you to look at;
    http://middleeast.about.com/od/humanrightsdemocracy/a/child-marriage-middle-east.htm

    If you want individual news stories, say two a year, from the last 5 to 10 years, let me know. Twice a year is a regular occurrence, although for it to be common that figure would need to reach say, 5% of marriages in any given place - which it has in some if you look at the stats linked to above.
     
    alexispetrov, Sep 16, 2010 IP