Should I waste my time?

Discussion in 'Publisher Network' started by cormac, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. #1
    We all know time is money but what I want to know is should I waste my time coding pages with YPN?

    The reason why I ask is that I am reading a lot of bad feedback about YPN on here.

    Is the bad earnings specific certain to sites and should I give it a shot? I have been accepted already but havent used it yet.
     
    cormac, Jan 14, 2006 IP
  2. Wiley

    Wiley Peon

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    There is also a lot of positive feedback too. Most people are making more money with VPN (including myself) but there are issues for the program is still in beta. I can tell you their customer service is 100 times better than Google and they really seem to be listening. If you are happy with Google then stay. If you have issues then I think it is worth a try.
     
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  3. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Well-Known Member

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    If it takes so much time to add YPN ads to your sites that you have to ask if its worth it, maybe you need to back up a step and look at your site architecture first.
     
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  4. mdvaldosta

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    Why not put your ads in an external file and call it with a php includes or ssi? That way you can just call your ad block from your file, and if you need to change something down the road (like ad code) you can change it sitewide in 1 file.
     
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  5. cormac

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    Thanks for the replies folks.

    mdvaldosta would you have any 'how to' resources on your suggestion? I like the sound of this.

    I really do need to sit back and look at the architecture, at the moment I am playing with approx 80 pages but as it grows I know that I am going to sent into a head spin.

    For the moment Adsense seems to be high one day then low the next even with the same amount of clicks and the same ads being served - would YPN do the same or is anyone seeing a steady payout rate?
     
    cormac, Jan 15, 2006 IP
  6. mdvaldosta

    mdvaldosta Peon

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    I assume you've got php on your server (who doesn't nowadays?).

    If you haven't started building sites with php includes, you should start. Let me ask you, what if you wanted to change your logo or add another navigational link? Change your footer copywrite? Why, you'd have to do it on all 80 pages. Whats worse, is when you have 800 or 8,000!

    Do this. Build your home page in html like you've been doing. Then take out your content and put that in your index.php file. Take out everything below it and put in in a footer.php file. Take everything above it and put it in header.php.

    Now, you've got your content page (index.php). It would look like this:

    meta info (keep this in your content file, not header)
    <? include("header.php") ?>
    All your content, blah blah etc.
    <? include("footer.php") ?>

    There, that's your basic page structure. Now, you can change the content for the particular page in the content file, and everything else (logo, footer, navigation links, all the other stuff... even the whole layout of the site) in the pages that your pulling with your includes. To add more pages just copy the index.php file, rename it to whatever you want, and change the content.

    You could structure it:

    meta info (keep this in your content file, not header)
    <? include("header.php") ?>
    Content header and some text
    <? include("your-ad-code.php") ?>
    The rest of your content blah
    <? include("footer.php") ?>

    Then if later down the road you switch to a different ad publisher you can change the info in your-ad-code.php and have it reflect sitewide.

    But, in the meantime if you just want to easily do this withough rebuilding your entire site and get your ad code in there, just create a file called ad-code.php and put your ypn code in it. Then, everywhere you want your ad code to be displayed on those pages just put <? include("ad-code.php") ?> or you may have to reference it to site root or call it by http:// instead of by file name (just like you do with links).

    If your site is built in html you can add a line in your .htaccess to parse the html pages as though they were php. Add this line in your .htaccess file in the root of your site:

    AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .html
     
    mdvaldosta, Jan 15, 2006 IP
  7. cormac

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    That is priceless thank you so much!
     
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    ronmojohny Well-Known Member

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    Nice webmaster lesson, mdvaldosta.
    Much appreciated. :cool:
    -RonMo
     
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    yea PHP makes the process so easy
     
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    You might want to use their Targeting feature at the start, until your pages are crawled.
    Depending on the niche, I've had mixed results with targeting- but in the beginning it can be a good tool for some.

    Let us know how the program works out for you!
     
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    Even though they are still in beta with problems, i am still making way more money then with adsense
     
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  12. cormac

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    Claymation - thanks, will report back.

    frankybme are you combining both programs on the same site but different pages?
     
    cormac, Jan 17, 2006 IP
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    bluegill_catcher Active Member

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    You could also try installing an adserver like phpadsnew to show your ads. This makes it super easy to change ads. (I emailed google about this and it is within
    TOS to use an adserver with adsense)
     
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    alph Well-Known Member

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    You should shop around, you can do much better with price and features. (unless your happy with them of course)
     
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  16. IXM

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    I have that "if it's not broken, don't fix it" attitude, and I wonder whether I should switch over from adsense too. Adsense does fine, but if I can quadruple my revenue using YPN... shouldn't that be enough of a reason to switch?
     
    IXM, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  17. cormac

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    Yes my host does support PHP so thats not a problem.

    I'm interested in going with mdvaldosta's idea and not just for the ease of changing from Adsense to YPN.

    IXM I have the same attitude but would like to see who comes out better Adsense or YPN. I will be trying YPN on my next site for sure.
     
    cormac, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  18. 313i

    313i hummmmmm. No clue

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    exactly, soooo much easier!
     
    313i, Jan 18, 2006 IP