Should abortion be allowed to women?

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Should abortion be allowed?

  1. yes

    96 vote(s)
    65.8%
  2. no

    50 vote(s)
    34.2%
  1. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #401
    I'm glad it worked out well :)
    Still, not everybody is that lucky. Would you have felt differently if her life was in danger through giving birth?
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #402
    That question is like asking what would you do to get out of a wrecked car? would you cut off both of your legs? What if you legs weren't even stuck?

    There are many people who have had difficulties through birth, that was dangerous to the mother or baby and there will always be risk, but with that risk is a great reward - I should know - we have six lovely children (and finished -whew)

    I am sure there have been times (yet very very few) that the baby growing in the mother was killing the mother and doctors have determined that the mother would die and have removed the baby to save her life (ultimately would have also killed the baby during the pregnancy also) But, again, this is a very rare circumstance.
     
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  3. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #403
    But the question is, 'Should abortion be allowed' there's no grey areas, it's a yes or no question.
     
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  4. DeniseJ

    DeniseJ Live, Laugh, Love

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    #404
    Abortion for medical reasons may be rare, but it does happen. Abortions happen for all sorts of reasons, and I don't think we can judge a woman for choosing to have one, I really don't.

    As far as deciding between right and wrong, all we can do is make our best guest in the current situation about what may be right or may be wrong. We never really know, but we have to trust ourselves that we are making the correct decision. However, I don't think anybody else has the right to tell us our decision is wrong. They are allowed to have their opinion of course, but to vocally expound upon the fact that our decision was wrong, immoral, etc. etc. etc... I don't think we really have that right.
     
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  5. latehorn

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    #405
    Look who's arguing with himself :D
     
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  6. latehorn

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    #406
    The problem is that argument is that you are giving one inviduals the right to decide an innocents right to live. If I feel very uncomfortable with my neighbour, does that I can kill him/her? No, but I can report them to the local police if they make any illegal action. Now, what illegal action has the unborned invidual made that should grant him/her death penalty?

    Alternatively, if you believe an unborned invidual isn't an human, you might want to respond to joelviztechs question.
     
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  7. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #407
    How many answers are there to a yes or no question Latehorn? I'll give you a clue..............

    1+1= (the answer's not 3 ;))

    Whereas the issues concering abortion are complex - something you're obviously not mature or intelligent enough to understand :)
     
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  8. DeniseJ

    DeniseJ Live, Laugh, Love

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    #408
    Your neighbor scenario and abortion aren't related to each other at all, Latehorn. While I respect your right to an opinion, I must disagree with what you're saying. I don't think you are adequately considering every reason a woman might choose to have an abortion. Furthermore, I don't think people have the right to condemn her actions as selfish. No one truly knows what a woman goes through during an abortion unless you've actually had one yourself, so it'd very hard to judge a woman when you haven't been in her place.
     
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  9. MattUK

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    #409
    Great arguement again, bit it has a few flaws,
    1. Your neighbour is human
    2. They're not in your womb
    3. Move away - they'll be glad ;)
     
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  10. latehorn

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    #410
    The question was
    This is not a yes or no question. At least not a question that can be answered on demand. Many people simply don't know.
     
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  11. latehorn

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    #411
    Actually I don't give damn about a woman that consider to kill an innocent human. No offense, but that's my view.
     
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    #412
    Flaws as in your brain. You simply don't understand that I havn't bought your argument, since you havn't been able to tell me how life suddenly starts when the birth takes place.

    Easy as Dell, moving takes some efforts and it's hard to find a good place in the city with the real estate prices as of today. A totally unnescarry step, just because one fucked up neighbour.
     
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    #413
    Latehorn, there are worse things in the world than abortion. You'd probably do well to realize that. You cannot possibly judge a woman who has gone through an abortion because you have never been in her place and NEVER will.
     
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    #414
    Read the post Latehorn................

     
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    #415
    I've already posted what I believe constiutes a human in the thread, if you can't accept that it's your problem.

    What I can't understand is why you choose to inflict your views on other people. I accept that you obviously don't trust yourself enough to make a decision that you feel the need to be bound by a law. Not everybody feels the same.
     
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  16. Tyler Banfield

    Tyler Banfield Well-Known Member

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    #416
    If I had to answer this question with Yes or No (although it is a bit more complicated than that), then my answer would definitely be Yes.
     
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  17. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #417
    I'm surprised, after all the material and examples presented regarding heart beats, ability to feel, examples of people who had considered it, but didn't, that people are still advocating the murder of babies.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #418
    Probably because MOST people are more realistic than you. How many children have you adopted today? How many children have you fed today that weren't yours? :confused:
     
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    Tyler Banfield Well-Known Member

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    #419
    The thing is, many people don't have a clear cut answer for whether or not abortion should be allowed. Personally, I answered yes because there are plenty of situations where I think it's needed (rape, incest, etc), and I would never agree with a complete ban of abortion.
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #420
    So murdering babies is realistic? Yet you are opposed to the death penalty. Keep the murders, pedophiles and rapists alive, but murder the innocent baby. Yeah, that's sure realistic :rolleyes:

    How many have you killed today?

    How many have I fed today that were not mine? None, today. How many in the last year? Well, there are a few here that actually know. We took in two kids, friends of my sons (we didn't murder our son), at different times during the last year. One lived with us for a year, until he could get on his feet, the other for four months after his mom kicked him out. Our grocery bill went from $400 a month to over $800 a month. We asked for nothing in return.

    But you see, it doesn't matter how many we took in, or how many we adapt or anything else, because it won't change your opinion that the wholesale slaughtering of babies to protect your welfare benefits is an honorable thing to do.
     
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