No, not nessacerily true. I believe it's not a black and white issue. Peoples circimstances are always different and you can't impose your views on other people. From a practical point of view, even when abortion was illegal here in the UK it was still very easy to have one performed, though it was fairly common for people to be prevented from having more children or even die during the operation. In my eyes the people that impose the law had their blood on their hands. If the process was available legally then lives could have been saved. I don't agree with abortion in all cases, though I believe in choice, even though I don't agree with something, I'll still fight for someones elses right to do or say it. I don't agree with certain political parties, but I'll defind their right to voice their views. The problem I have with you is that you feel that because you feel something is wrong, you can't accept that someone else may feel it is right. Not content with living your life how you see fit, you also choose to impose your views on others. That is something I can't ever agree with.
Sure, but what if the guy you want to rob is a shithead? Does it not make it right to rob? You decide what you want to do with your own body, if you want to use it to rob then you have made your decision. When it comes to phsycological effects, then all I can say is that people is different. Some people can go mad if they can't rob someone, and some people are some people are so extreme that they go mad if they can't murder their own child. However, I prefer someone to rob me rather than my parent to murder me.
So how do you equate you support of the war in Iraq with your anti-abortion views. Surely you couldn't support a regieme that killed innocent people just the same as you cannot condone abortion?
I can accept with no problems at all. I live my life with happiness. Obstacles and decisions confront me as often as anyone else. I am just hoping to discuss problems with people who make rash decisions. If you can't agree "ever" then you have already made your decision and it seems nothing can ever change it whatever facts you face. No more I can say to that!
Discussing decisions is a little different from making something illegal, don't you agree? And you can? I'd say that your religious views preclude you from ever changing your stance
Well a soldier has the right to defend themselfs and I think that the war has both good and bad effects, I think it saved a lot of lives and helped US to gain control of ME. Iraq had WMDs since those were found many times. I support that war to 100%. However, abortions is unneccesary murders. Think of someone you like, then think how it would be if that person would be murdered at an age of 3 months. You get the point..
What about civillians that die as well? So gaining control of the ME is a valid excuse for a loss of life. How many unborn babies does US contol of the ME equate to, 1, 10, 100, 1000 I'd say with all the oil it has to be worth at least 10,000 dead babes, don't you agree? Yeah, I get your point, I don't agree though. Yes there are some abortions carried out that I don't agree with. I'll still defend peoples right to choose though. There are also some that are carried out that I agree with, for reasons of insest, rape etc. I blanket ban on all abortions is wrong.
Who says I am making something illegal? I make "my" stance because I have a great deal of research behind that backs my points. What have you?
I hear opinions, I don't see any foundations for those opinions. Why not banning abortions? Why is this issue so important for you? Well now I suppose you're trying to switch subject just because you can't handle me. It's ok for me, just tell me when I'm too good for you
Do you have any 'facts' for why they should be illegal? Nope, I'm happy to go on, I've still seen nothing from you to change my mind.
Really? Me too! I chose life over possible ramifications. See! There's that stance again. I can understand why so many people choose the "easy" way out of situations. Because so many people let them. Hence, the reason why the human race is failing more and more the further down the track we go.
Don't really know what you're asking for Neither have I seen something from you.. however, I did pwn you
Well you were asking me As far as I know this whole issue is about opinion, just making a point how stupid your comment was. What the hell is that, a typo?
MattUK, I have just scrolled through a lot of pages of your posts. You are very argumentative in many areas. I feel you try very hard to goad people into an argument instead of having a peaceful discussion. Therefore, there is no point of having any further discussions with you because I feel you lack basic reasoning skills.
What on earth makes you so sure that having an abortion is an easy way out? For many, I am sure it is, but that is a blanket statement that just doesn't cover the myriad of situations in which a woman might find herself where abortion would be a painful but absolutely necessary course to take. And while we are at it, what about the title of this thread. Should abortion be allowed to woman ... what if one of you guys got the wrong girl pregnant. You both know it, two years down the line you're going to have nothing in common except for the poor baby that has trapped you together. If abortion is both immoral and illegal, you are then going to willingly commit to at the vey least taking financial care of the child until it reaches majority, spend a considerable amount of parental time with the child, emotionally support the mother through the ups and downs of raising a child alone, right? Yeah, right! If that is the case, it must be because all you moral giants hang out in DP for so much of the time, that real life bears little relation to many of your ideas of a perfect world.
You? You chose life? I didn't realise men could get pregnant? Or were you forcing your views on your partner?