That's not true at all. I was just waiting for you to insinuate that it was al-CIAda behind it. I expect your neocon supporting hero Bill O'Reilly might have a fabulous "no spin" opinion on it later.
As this is just breaking news at the moment I cannot form an opinion at present. It is not like 9/11 when less than 24 hours after the event we had a list of the 19 hijackers and Bin Laden and al-CIAda were already named as the perpetrators.
Right, you need to wait and be sure, before creating a conspiracy theory. After all, you need to know who to give the credit to, right? Giving aid and comfort to your buds again with ficticious stories?
I absolutely agree. Most criminals that carry guns or other weapons are doing so illegally and that wouldn't change with the outlaw of guns.
They are giving a new press conference right now...the chief of VT police said there was 33 confirmed deaths, including the shooter.
I suppose that in a place like a campus, with thousands of people in close proximity, security has to be a priority or allow them to carry guns so they can defend themselves, which is not entirely true anyway. Obviously, there wasn't enough, because a few can be killed no matter what, if someone goes crazy, but not that many! Guns that make it easier should be carefully allowed, but not forbidden as criminals find them anyway, look at the UK...
I'm sure this will be popular here I think it's a byproduct of trying to root out any and all influences God has in our daily society.
I disagree there. I'm an athiest and would never consider shooting an innocent person. I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter thought he was doing "gods" work in some sick twisted way.
This country? Now? People? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#List_of_school_massacres I think "Anger Management" and "Everyone Has Problems, Asshole" should be required courses for all grades. I just don't get what this shooter's malfunction was. The Columbine shooters were atheists. They killed everyone they could.
The problem with security and the possibility of guns on University campuses is two fold. First of all, campus security winds up being a lot different than in other places. The campus is supposed to be a place for the free interchange of ideas, and I've read interviews with Campus cops for my Al Ma Mater that were shocked at the difference in culture inside the campus vrs the off campus culture. Chalk drawings and scribbles, complementary or otherwise were viewed as free speech and students actually organized times and places to draw their free speech in in an organized fashion. One cop decided to clean a bit of it away as a favor to the university, and a professor stopped him, rather upset about it. Further, a University is a place where thousands upon thousands of people come in and out (sometimes multiple times) in the same day. Some by car, some by bus, some by foot. Yet at my old university, you could go weeks without seeing any sign of security, unless you went into the administration building, where you saw security guards working on parking permits and tickets about any time the office was open. There were maybe 3 security trucks, maybe. And there's a reason for this. In the year I lived at the Dorm on south campus, there was only one reported theft, it was of a PS2 when they first came out, and it was returned the same week by the friend of the person that stole it. There's a binding camaraderie for most people, at least at the University I went too... the need for security is usually very minimal. And on top of that, you have the problem that fairly often a university will be spread out across multiple sub-campuses, not even counting auxiliary locations where people can take classes off of campus. Secondly, there is a tendency of university goers to be fresh out of high school, and thus relatively naive. There was still talk about what was "fair" or not, in the sense that children grow up with. There was still little exposure to ideas other than your own, though getting that exposure was one reason you came. There are all sorts of protests, and arguments over what's right, and wrong, moral, or immoral, and for some reason loads of people at university carried the idea that guns were inherently evil. Any potential change in the rules to allow students to carry guns would immediately bring huge amounts of negative attention, protests, and controversy.
That was quick! Told you it was going to be popular Trying to argue this point here would be like trying to solve pi Please...he was looking for his GF right, I'm sure it had nothing to do with the thing in which you do not believe.
3.14 etc etc etc I know how to solve pie, but not pi. Well - what is there to solve about pi anyways? It's just a fraction. As for what is wrong with people? Inbreeding. Inbreeding, social bull crap, and the lack of responsible parenting along with the lack of responsible people in general. Until a true system for denying people to have children exists you will see many more occurrences of this happening from the moronic youth who think that they're the only ones with problems.
A little insight I have. I have a friend who's daughter goes to VT and was in the engineering building when the shooting occured. She was on a different floor, thankfully. She told her dad it was an Asian kid. He was upset that his girlfriend had been cheating on him with some guy who supposedly was in the engineering building. He didn't know who, so he starting shooting people. Supposedly, the first dorm he went to was where she was staying. From what I heard, he killed her, then went to the engineering building. He had a bullet proof vest and a load of ammo. He was carrying two 9mm handguns and this is what he used. He also chained some of the exit doors. 33 people are dead including himself. I don't know this stuff to be absolute fact, but think it to be atleast somewhat reliable based on the source. It is definitely tragic. Getting people to go to VT will be very difficult now. It's unfortunate because it is a good school. This could have happened anywhere.
Thanks for the insight/update Matt. News we couldn't get anywhere else right now. I'm having the hardest time understanding how anyone, for any reason, could do something like this. One after another after another.
You sir, are an idiot. If everyone had a gun, black eyed fights country wide would be gun fights. Give me a freakin break. Have some sympathy. Christ.