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Shocking revelations. DMOZ editors contradictions and snug methods.

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by Plantation, Sep 21, 2006.

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    I was told by an eminent editor of the predestined DMOZ directory that all editors working with the directory have not the slightest interest regarding search engines. In particular with google. In fact, an active policy discourages any search engine knowledge amongst editors. I was told that search technology is a sort of taboo so far as their privileged directory is concerned. A sort of comrades in arms against webmasters seems to exist at DMOZ.

    I was assured that no search technology based document exists at DMOZ so as to discourage interest and only their haphazardly arranged directory is maintained.

    Disclaimers of what they do abound on every desk and computer so that webmasters are quickly pointed to the small print regarding any questions. Nearly all webmaster questions were pointed to these disclaimers in vague URL addresses. A sort of automatic response. Where it says without a shadow of a doubt that DMOZ has no interest in search engines and that no webmaster should ever consider getting a link from DMOZ.

    Not two minutes after that, I read somewhere that google actively encourages webmasters to get DMOZ links.

    One particular question where a desperate and lost webmaster politely asked why his site is removed, he/she was ruthlessly told that his site no longer represented what DMOZ deems to be of interest to its database. And that any editor can simply erase a website if he/she felt that a site simply does not fit in with the privileged website selection they operate.

    A clear and concise statement officiously and arrogantly dictated was also directed towards webmaster describing in detail how DMOZ has not the slightest interest with webmasters comments. This shocking comment was eagerly endorsed by other DMOZ editors threatening to ban any webmaster that confronts them about these issues.

    The haughty editor, a prominent representative of DMOZ, claimed that google to them means absolutely nothing and that no webmasters comments are of any interest to them. His only concern was that google’s signature exists on a terms of service contract with DMOZ and the he has no other interest as to what google does or represents to the web regarding the data in the DMOZ directory.

    One editor even claims that google is totally ignored when titles and descriptions are altered on websites by experienced and inexperienced editors.

    Inexperienced DMOZ editors are encouraged to use spare time to randomly use search engines in an indiscriminate and wholesale manner to make arbitrary selections and to use these chosen websites to increase listings within the directory categories to bolster the numbers in those pages. It was declared that no real consideration is given to the haphazard method of altering these randomly chosen websites titles and descriptions by the many inexperienced editors that are either under his control or the others editors that supported every disclaimer this DMOZ representative uttered on behalf of the directory.

    However, I must add that I did come across more ethical editors. But they were tied down and not able to speak out about the anomalies perpetrated by the more senior editors. It seemed that the comradeship element is strong within DMOZ.
     
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  2. compostannie

    compostannie Peon

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    OMG, are you sure? :eek:

    Maybe you should ask at resource-zone.com to make sure these revelations are true. :D
     
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    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like Plantation's been there already.
     
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    My evil twin posted that, I'd never do anything so insensitive. :p
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Plantation;

    Shocking revelations for you. ;)

    DMOZ editors don't hate Google or search engines. They are always discussing the ways to spam one more directory or search engine to get better ranks for DMOZ and their own sites. The date of Google next update from DMOZ is always an object of interest for senior editors. Many of senior editors work with DMOZ as part of their job and not as volunteers, so it will be stupid for them not to be interested in search engines. The day Google drops DMOZ, I estimate that at least 90% of senior editors also leave.
     
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    Nonny Notable Member

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    Plantation;

    I'm a little confused as to what the "shock" is here. It sounds like DMOZ editors are discouraged from adding links just for SEO purposes (I mean SEO purposes of the entry) and, instead, are encouraged to add entries to categories on their own and to make descriptions of the entries themselves. To me, that would be the sign of a directory that is useful for the surfer/directory user, rather than a directory set up simply for webmasters to get backlinks.
     
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    olddocks Notable Member

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    Infact, thats the truth.:rolleyes:
     
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  8. Plantation

    Plantation Guest

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    gworld,

    The Gospel of truth, decreed by you?

    I see no divine inspiration of what you declare and your explanation of a revellation is shorter than "The book of Obadiah".

    And your Gospel warrants no fellowship as to its facts. I have personally exchanged notes with these editors. Am I to belive you? Or am I to believe cast iron evidence?

    Convince me.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    If you just bothered to read the posts here instead of just posting, you would have known that I am an editor and I have access to internal forums, do you have access? :rolleyes:
     
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    plantation

    It seems the information you received is from the Resourceless Zone. If I am not mistaken. RZ is run by bunch of honchos.

    And you believe what they say ?

    No, but you can read the threads here at DP and it is up to your judgement.

    Like everybody else you should be able to distinguish between Right and Wrong.


    Good Luck.
     
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  11. Plantation

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    Nonny,

    I watched them beat a webmaster to the ground. Mercilessly.

    He asked why his websites was removed from DMOZ after 2 years of bieng in a particular competitive category. The main editor replied to that webmaster in an impolite manner and told him directly that his site is insignificant to waste time on and that a particular editor probably thought that the webmasters content was of no importance to the directory, therefore useless to be displayed.

    If that is a general attitude, don't you agree that there is a problem? I think in your note you have assumed about backlinks. This is'nt about gaming the system. Attitude is the point of discussion.

    The webmaster was extremely polite in his question.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Many of senior editors and especially those who take part in RZ are A*sholes with serious mental problems. This is no news for the majority of people here. It is a problem but so is almost everything else about DMOZ. :rolleyes:
     
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    popotalk Notable Member

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    Nothing new. ;)

    It's their turf. Invite them here. Wait they are here and some of them have different usernames.:eek: And some of them ran away.
     
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    I don't bother reading false literature. Nor self ingratiating ones either.

    Your revellation indicated you were an editor of some sort, what I don't know but thank you for advertising the fact that you belong to a privileged club. :eek:
     
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    You have very surprising statements plantation and you take it slowly.:cool:
     
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    compostannie Peon

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    The main editors at DMOZ are called Admins and as far as I know they don't reply at resource zone. Also, a resource-zone Admin is not the same as a DMOZ Admin.

    Plantation, do you know that resource-zone is not an official part of DMOZ? It's a private site run by a group of editors, but everything there is the opinion of the editors who are posting. They are not speaking for DMOZ officially, and they are not speaking for the majority of editors.

    Hope this helps put things in perspective for you. :)
     
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    I think he knows Annie. He is about to crossing a line. But which line ?
     
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    Annie,

    Let him be happy. Don't burst his bubble, it seems he is in heaven because of "main" ;) editor of DMOZ has emailed him. :rolleyes:
     
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    Ooops, I apologize. Carry on. :D
     
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    I didn't know that!

    If the ODP was private enterprise, and its employees had pulled off a scheme like that, discrediting the whole organization with their disdain, scorn and contempt towards the webmasters that inquire there, these entreprising editors would have long ago received a pink slip.
     
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