SHAME: Pakistan Hindu youth’s coffin labelled as ‘kaafir’

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  1. jeewant_gupta_051275

    jeewant_gupta_051275 Well-Known Member

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    #21
    As for the original post- it is sad to say the least.
    About how Muslims are treated in India- well, most of my best friends are from the muslim community, and they are equally educated and have access to similar jobs as I do- I don't see the red- why do you?
     
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  2. wajid_pk

    wajid_pk Peon

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    #22
    Well how Muslims are treated in India ??
    you burn there bodies
    religiously we have different ways to treat dead bodies
    what was you accepting we should pray Namaz-Jnaza of pram chund ? if so your community might protest against this

    In Pakistan Hindus are 2 to 3 percent do you know bagwan das (Judge of Pakistan supreme court) Cricketer Danish Kanerya Where Hindus have not access to get smiler Job
    Pakistan full name is Islamic Republic of Pakistanto hindus we can not allow to be a president or prime minister Army chief because we are Islamic republic all other positions are fine
    and to India this is not Hindu republic of India its only Republic of India so you can not strict anyone to not be a president or prime minister of the country

    If they Mark his Cofin it is Honor to us that we respect other religion's circumstances
    there should be SHAME to us if we refuse to mark his body and destroy

    We keep his body we give respect hi body marking it
    when you burn your dead bodies if you feel shame then change this thing and follow something new and we might respect that new thing and will treat your bodies as you rule out new

    to word KAFIR i have discussed it in my previous post reply
     
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  3. stephenhacking

    stephenhacking Peon

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    #23
    Ignorance is bliss.

    Muslims are given all the privileges in India and enjoy a very high standard of living.

    India even had a Muslims President till recently, can you name one Hindu who's successful in Pakistani politics?

    I think you've been watching too much of GEO TV recently.


    Again - you're being ignorant.

    The video posted is about the Law College Clash between students in Chennai - It happened just a few blocks away from my home and was in no way religious.

    It's extremely safe for me to say that there was not a single Muslim involved in this clash.

    Please don't post nonsense when you don't know what it is.


    No they aren't.

    I know plenty of Muslims in India and they haven't been subjected to rape, conversion or murder.

    Firstly, the Hindu religion doesn't have the concept of "conversion" - and, all Muslims in India are originally Hindu converts.

    Hinduism is simply a way of life, and you can follow Hindu traditions, still be a Muslim and called a Hindu.

    Kaffir is internationally recognized as a derogatory term.

    Anyone who says otherwise is ill-informed.



    The representation of Hindu's in Pakistan is nowhere close to the representation of Muslims in India.

    While the Hindu community in Pakistan has diminished, the Muslim community in India has grown in percentage.

    So, the Muslims must definitely be thriving in India.

    We believe in the "best man for the job", rather than "the best muslim for the job"; and, that's why India's a great place to live for anyone, irrespective of their religion, color, caste or creed.

    You cannot justify not treating a non-muslim citizen of Pakistan the same way a Muslim would be.

    The point of this discussion is - Pakistan is an Islamist Republic which is not a safe place for Non Muslims. Agree or Don't agree?
     
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  4. wajid_pk

    wajid_pk Peon

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    #24
    That was a meter of death not a JOB
    what you accept we should say Prame Chand used to travel the airblue that was going to be crashed well Good job Prame Chand ?
    Hindus are 2% in Pakistan
    there are in Cricket
    supreme court of Pakistan (senior Judge)
    Memebr of parliament
    clashes between Hindus and Muslims in Pakistan is 0% have you heard a single clash between Hindu and Muslim in Pakistan
    and in India ??? every one know
    India is not safe for Non Hindus even not safe for Hindus of low level sects like shodar and etc etc
     
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  5. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #25
    Muslims are not discriminated by the constitution or the government in India. They may be discriminated by private individuals in India but that happens everywhere in the world including Pakistan. You cannot control the behavior of everyone, if someone doesn't want to have anything to do with people holding a particular faith then its upto them. Discrimination if stronger against Muslims in every non-islamic country because of the reputation their religion has earned. If christians start a crusade today killing all muslims in Pakistan and openly christian governments condone such acts then even christians would be discriminated against. It would be wrong, but it would happen.

    Point out one Hindu-Muslim clash in India which wasn't started by Muslims. Just one.
     
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  6. wajid_pk

    wajid_pk Peon

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    #26
    LOL
    good shot trying to start let them (Hindu Muslim) blame each other who started who was wrong who right
    (we warned 1400 years ago about this :) )
    who started is not meter why happened is the concern ????
     
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  7. stephenhacking

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    #27
    Read my original message.

    The statement I made was in no way related to Prem Chand.

    It was simply to elaborate that every citizen of India is equal irrespective of religion.

    There is only one cricketer that I remember in the Pakistani team who's Hindu.

    Please enlighten me with a list of Pakistani Parliamentarians who are Hindu.

    Parsi's make less than 0.1% of Indian population and are better represented than the Hindus in Pakistan.

    Though you can justify the 2% versus 15% clause, Pakistani Hindu's should at least be getting 20% of the representation that Indian Muslims get; I don't see that happening.

    Please prove me otherwise.

    That's because its not reported in Pakistani Media. Plus, the Hindu population is of very less proportion in the entire Pakistani populace that if they turned violent, they would be either converted or persecuted.

    Says who?

    Have you ever been to India? Don't spread the lies you see or listen in the Pakistani Media.

    Have you ever opened your eyes and seen the Sunni vs Shia riots, and violence between various sects within Pakistan?

    When you have a group of people, there's bound to be differences of opinion. Don't generalize because it's convenient for you to do.



    I still think you need to fix your grammar.

    Don't they teach that in Pakistani schools? :)

    BTW - You never apologized for posting the video of the Law School Clash in Chennai as an anti-muslim riot.

    Why in the world would you spread wrong information? Isn't it against the ethos of Islam to lie, especially about a publicly publicized event?

    What's the punishment for lying in Public in Islam?
     
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  8. wajid_pk

    wajid_pk Peon

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    #28
    1/10 = 10% right ?
    Justis Rana Bagwan Das
    Pram Chand (Late)
    LOL
    http://suarakeadilantaxidrivermalay...8/watchdoganswer-to-your-question-is-ram.html
    what happened when bill Clinton visited India
    IPL matches
    Babri Maque
    read the Social status of Dalits here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalit
    Regarding Media in Shohaib and Sania case it was there personal meter
    Thanks English is our next to 2nd Language
    who gave us the freedom ?
    Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinah right ?
    what they said
    Kashmir should be a part of Pakistan (Shehrag)
    who gave you India ?
    Gandhi G right ?
    what they said ? "Kashmir is our Attot Ang"
    we teaches in our schools that Quaid assign us a duty as you teach about Atoot ang ang Ghuss bethiay
    well we both are on right path in our beliefs but the Major thing is we should have to let Kashmiri's decide what the want as UN declared that there should be referendum.
    Pakistan always talked about referendum what you 7lack soldiers are doing there just read the news of India news paper what happened yesterday in Kashmir
    This is what we teach in our schools
    LoL today is not 12 august 1947
    according to 1998 it is 2%
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Pakistan
    also take a look at the chart of percentage at the end of article
    how ever i call to management of airblue, PIA and PIMS (Hospital) and will update soon what happened with prame chand
     
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  9. stephenhacking

    stephenhacking Peon

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    #29
    That's one each.

    Nowhere close to the representation of Muslims in Indian politics, sports or media.

    What happened when Bill Clinton visited India? Humor me please.

    What happened during the IPL Matches?

    The Dalits are not doing quite as bad as their counterparts in Pakistan.

    Sania was not any good at tennis anyways. I don't think she would have been as popular if she didn't have a pair of boobies.

    English is my 3rd language. This is an English forum, you cannot justify English being your second language to post incomprehensible nonsense.

    No, the British did. Jinnah just used the situation as an opportunity to become the ruler of a country.

    The Chinese Communist Party wanted to rule Sikkim, doesn't mean they are the rightful rulers of Sikkim. Same case with Kashmir and Pakistan.

    FYI - Kashmir is more than 40% Hindu; you forgot that Kashmir also includes Jammu.

    Wrong, the British did.

    The biggest mistake M.K Gandhi did was giving Jinnah and Nehru too much leeway, they didn't deserve it.

    Moreover, freedom was not won by one single person for him/her to stake ownership to it, it was fought with the blood and sweat of millions of ordinary Indians, my grandfather being one of them.

    They never claimed ownership to the freedom that was won like Nehru or Ali Jinnah who were out for power.

    You're not making sense.

    Refer to my previous response. Kashmir is not just PoK, it also includes Leh, Ladakh and Jammu which constitute a high percentage of Kashmir's landmass.

    The only things your schools seem to be teaching is that Hindu's are evil.

    I invite you to come to India and see how we treat our Muslim brethren for yourself. I've been to Pakistan before, so I know how you treat Hindu's and Sikh's there.


    You have a problem with reading stuff don't you?

    Short attention span with listening to all the Jihad and Paki-propaganda I would imagine.

    I originally said Pakistani Hindu's should at least be getting 20% of the representation that Indian Muslims get .

    And, you never responded back to the video comment - don't you feel a little ashamed to be promoting fake information?

    Considering the fact that you claim to be part of the Pakistani Airforce, I can now understand why your Armed Forces are known to be corrupt, mislead and generally popular for fabricating lies.
     
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  11. stephenhacking

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    #31
    What is your response for mis-quoting a video?

    Aren't you ashamed of doing this being a part of the Pakistani Armed Forces?

    If you don't feel any shame, I will conclude that everyone in your army lies, fabricates and feel no shame.
     
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    #32
    so what, You people don't know meaning of Kafir , just fighting . Kafir is that who don't accepts Islamic Ideology..
     
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    #33
    Do YOU know the meaning of the word Kaffir?
     
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    #34

    yeah I know more than you, Kafir is big term used widely & varies. if someone is kafir it doesnt mean that he is threat for Islam.
     
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    #35
    And yet your scriptures ask people to convert or kill the kafirs
     
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    #36
    Its a mis-concept.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #37
    It actually allows enslaving us as a third option:
    Sura 9 (Repentance), Verse 29
    Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.​
     
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    Thanks Will, that's a huge relief :p
     
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  19. chunnumunnu

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    #39
    Who seperated India, pakistan and bangladesh? My Answer is Mhd. Jinnah, Jawahar lal Nehru and M.K. Gandhi.. Now current situation : Indians have all right Not belongs to Hindu, Muslim or any other religion.. Muslims have more right than Hindu in India (Education sector).. Rich and Poor descrimination is spreaded all over the world. We Never tought in schools that pakistan is enemy country.. Muslims is enemy.. Or never got information in school that what is happening with hindus in pakistan.. Right now the entire world is cruel..

    There is lot of muslims who have much higher post is govt.. Abdul kalam is Muslim and He was the president of India.. i think this is enough to proove that we don't descriminate..

    About the video posted here. It was written on the face of people that he is hindu , muslim or christian? I don't think so.. All colleges have hindu,muslim,sikh,christian and students belong from other religions, If There was fight between college students then People commenting "OH My God, Muslim was beated by Hindus" What about other scenes of fight where Muslim beated Hindu? , We just take these kind of scenes as a normal fight between students not as Hindu muslim fight..

    " Humanity is lost where in this cruel world "
     
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