SERP Domination - 4,785 Page 1 Rankings in 14 Days!

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  1. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #121
    Firstly, sorry everyone for not answering questions or replying to PM's. A server failure has resulted in sites going down and being moved to new better equipped homes. I've had 40 or so PM's regarding this post, so sorry i haven't been able to reply individually.

    The tool is just Awstats, most hosts should have this on your account if you look around in cPanel. It's under the "Search Keyphrases" heading. The way i came up with the figure was times the amount of search phrases by 0.80 because statistics show 80% of users who conduct a query don't go to the second page and this will give you the approximate amount of terms your site is found by that resides on page 1.

    It's not exact, however unless you query all the terms and count the exact figure on page 1 this is as close as you can get.

    The latest: 79,173 x 0.80 = 63,338 Page #1 Rankings in 5 weeks

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    Now for the traffic trend, as you can see traffic completely buckled the server on the 20th resulting in a mad dash to get it on to a bigger one so some stat data was lost on 20/21st but it was very heavy traffic days.

    As you can see the overall trend is still rising, and i expect it to rise really sharply now it's on a better server.

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    In the beginning it was 100% onpage optimization because i don't like doing offpage and sending bots to a non-optimized website. Now i'm down to 50/50 and when i'm really happy with the site it will drop to 10% onpage that will just include page maintenance/updates and the other 90% will be offpage.
     
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  2. JerryMarketing

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    #122
    thanks for the great info!
    appreciate it :)
     
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    #123
    Will you please provide a url of any page/ any site that has been properly optimized for lt kw's?

    Congrats on these stats. Insane man.

    Can you give us a hint of this client's adsense daily earnings now? Something tells me that it is approaching 4 figures daily.

    :O)
     
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    sweetfunny Banned

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    #124
    I will see what i can do about a really good example page for long tail, but in essence take this sentence for example "The other day i went to the shop".

    It's really useless "fluff" words, and out of 8 words there's probably only 1 useful one which is shop and the other 7 are nothing words. Creating good long tail pages is all about dropping as many of these fluff words that just add to page bloat and using targeted keyword rich words constructed in to phrases people are likely to query in search.

    As for the site, it's got physical items which is it's source of income. I am testing an Adsense block on naturally high bounce rate pages only. I don't want to detract and loose customers from a sale via Adsense, but at the same time i figure if people are going to naturally bounce on certain pages it may as well be via an Adsense click to squeeze the maximum revenue per visitor.

    However if the site was specifically targeting Adsense with no products, yes i have no doubt it would be in to the 4 figures a day.
     
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    #125

    You just don't know how useful it would be to me (and others?) to see a real example with a url. That would be HUGE!

    Taking the fluff words out makes a lot of sense. I wonder if that helps explain this: the pages I make that the serps love with tons of lt kw's are pages with almost exclusively tables with data. For instance, this page is loved by google: Mardi Gras 2008 Parade Schedule . The page is primarly data. Very little fluff. I have no idea how many lt kw's have been hit for this page, but it is a lot (for me). It seems like the serps pull this page for an amazing amount of kw's and kw combos. I wonder if it's because of little fluff?

    4 figures a day.... At least I have a pretty dream huh? Man, I bet your client is kissing your arse. WTG!!!!!

    ;)
     
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    #126
    I do use long tail but the problem is how many time do they get typed in a day. Either way a great option for quick visits and and easy way to monopolize that page.
     
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    #127
    this is true. While it might be nice to rank #1 for "black motorola razr case smalltown IL", that term might only get searched for 1 time per week and only pay off a 15 cent commission, if nothing at all. Plus, someone else will come along and dominate it while you're tending to your many other #1 results.

    I like to take the bull by the horns and work for page 1-2 results for the 2-3 word keywords :cool:
     
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    #128
    As i mentioned over the page somewhere, relying on 2 or 3 keywords/phrases it takes a simple tweak by Google and you wake up to nothing. Followed by days or weeks trying to recover your rankings.

    By having a large array of longtail rankings, as you can see i've taken a site with little traffic and in 5 weeks bought the server to a halt due to traffic load. If Google makes a tweak and sends 100 phrases back a few pages, no problems several hundred are likely to jump up on to page 1.

    There is really no single point of failure besides maybe the server going down or the domain expiring.

    Also by having such a large exposure with thousands of keyphrases i'm finding a lot of backlinks are gathering naturally because people are finding the pages in SERP's and linking to them. Digipoint and Wiki is a great example of this natural backlink effect by ranking on a diverse range of queries.
     
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    #129
    Thanks for the post :)

    This is one of the strategies amazon used.

    What I did to my site is like this and so far its resulting to great traffic:

    Main page -->Targets competitive well researched keywords
    Category Page --> Target Less competive keyword (type of product)
    Product Page --> targets type keywords with type of product
    Product Model Page --> I used long tail keywords
     
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    #130
    First off, what a great post ! Most of us know about the long tail but I've never seen it demonstrated so brilliantly and concisely as that. It should inspire us all to focus on this area.

    For the last couple of years, I've been guilty of neglecting most onpage SEO to be honest, so this really helps. The irony is that the sites I've been doing well on (as a result of link building) for 1 and 2 word phrases, are also ranking well for lots of long-tail phrases. But that's not by design. I haven't optimised for any of these long tail phrases :eek:

    So I'm picking up long tail phrases by default, because my site ranks so well for the generic term. The long tail phrases only appear within the text on some inner pages, but that seems to be enough if you're dominating the generic term at the root of all the long term phrases.

    That's my theory anyway, and I suppose its kind of the reverse of what we should be doing (which is targetting longtail first, then 2nd tier, then generic).

    Having said all that, I'm now inspired to put a lot more effort into some long tail optimisation. :)
     
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  11. Mike Levin

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    #131
    Yes, I know (by some coincidence :) )

    Yes, it only works off of searched keywords that have actually led people to your site. But don't despair. This is an important, and often neglected, part of any balanced keyword campaign.

    Why?

    Because your (most) sites are full of tons of coincidental search hits--things you never deliberately targeted, but you're getting the hits anyway. Our stats show that this usually comprises 80% of a sites new referral traffic. Your main keywords only constitute about 20%.

    And in a certain portion of that 80%, the person dug deep into the search results before they found and clicked you. That's incredibly valuable competitive intelligence that pretty much everyone but us overlook.

    You can take this list and write new content that targets it, and sproing your site to the first page of Google (yes, quite reliably).

    Or you can take this list and plow it into an AdWords campaign, instantly making your site appear on the first page of results (albeit in ads), where previously, it was buried in natural search.

    How's that for SEO and SEM optimization in one swoop?
     
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    #132
    What tool are you using to research long tail keywords? In your research do you find search phrases that are expected to bring you in traffic yet dont even when you hit the top of serps? e.g. your research tool says the phrase 'old dogs like superx food' will bring in 1000 searches a month, yet when you rank high for this term you get nothing. Just wondering if this happens alot?

    I am using Wordze for keyword research (1 month trial), do you rate this product?
     
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    #133
    Thanks a bunch. I wish I could bring to the forum some stuff like this. I guess I could sit and talk about wedding photography and you might say wow, but how boring is that! LOL.
     
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    #134
    really cool read man ..
     
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    #135
    wow thats impressive
     
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    #136
    I checked my awstats for January and it showed that 28.3% of my traffic came from the top 10 search phrases...meaning that 71.7% of its traffic came from long tail keywords.


    By this are you suggesting that the link back to the homepage in the footer should be the main keyword phrase that I am trying to rank for instead of my websites name?

    I purposely did not do that with my site because I was worried that it could appear spammy to the search engines or would be looked at as being "overoptimized". What is your opinion on this?
     
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    #137
    To be totally honest i don't really bother with Keyword Search Volume tools, i find they are too incorrect to pay much attention to.

    I'd rather use my own logic to work out what phrases a user will "most likely" query when looking for information about my product or webpage. I also use my own data to make new pages, say i have 2 product pages and they both rank page #1 for their long tail make/model number.

    Kodak DigiPoint 1000 (50 hits day)
    Canon DigiPoint 1000 (100 hits day)

    I'd make more pages based around the Canon Digipoint 1000 such as reviews, product comparisons etc to take advantage of the higher search volume and use these extra pages to drive traffic to the Canon Digipoint sales page.

    Your ratio is normal, and it just goes to show the primary keyphrases that we spend money on and chase only bring in just over 1/4 of the search traffic.

    As for having a sitewide link to home with your main keyword or phrase, no i've never found it to be spammy. For instance if your Google "Digital Point Solutions" DP has a sitelink for the term and that's what is used on the footer of all forum pages.

    I've tested it plenty of times, however try it. On a site or blog that doesn't matter as much with quite a few pages, add a footer link to home with your primary keyphrase and track your position as the site gets indexed with the new link. ;)
     
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    #138

    Funny. I just googled Canon DigiPoint 1000. This thread came up number 1.

    ;)
     
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    #139
    This is what I was afraid of, seems that these keyword tools are not accurate. In fact lots of them contradict each other, very annoying.
     
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    #140
    great post!!!

    I too am about to launch my ecommerce site in a few weeks, Could i not launch my site and then do optimizing work on my site. as i can post my link in a forum and google will crawl it again quick enough, or is it harmful to my site if i don't optimize first before i submit it to google
     
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