Surely AGS isn't running again? Or is he waiting for the person in the hot seat to return to cheer? AGS?
http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm Please provide pictures of them. I'd love to see picture of them, in particular, exiting the planes that apparently never hit the buildings. I'd also love to see evidence of the existence of any 1 of the 4 planes 10 minutes after they "crashed" - got anything like that for me? http://www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com/articles/article/1518131/29110.htm This one reeks of credibility, of course. http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=7762 Another guy who reeks of credibility. Ya'll aren't even trying anymore are you? You just put on your tinfoil hats and repeat the same tired mantras over and over again. Here's a decent summary of things debunking the 9/11 myths: http://www.debunking911.com/ Of course, here is the list of everyone that had to be involved to make 9/11 the conspiracy(tm) possible:
1. I went to the website you suggested about the angling and got hit with this and had a laugh. "That cut could have been done at any time during the clean up and recovery. Lets not forget the building went down some 6 stories underground. The firemen were recovering bodies mainly from the core and some were in the lobby when it happened. So it's not unreasonable to expect firemen there well after the event. Long enough for an ironworker to cut the column." Too bad you can clearly see melting steel coming from the cut LOL... And yes, iron workers just walked around and started cutting colums that just looked a little bit too big haha... 2. About bin laden confessing, its very easy to come up with a fake bin laden.. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html Something more recent for you: June 10, 2006 FBI says "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11" http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060610&articleId=2623 Wait a second, no hard evidence, I thought he confessed? Hmm.. 3. To add insult to injury, you may or may not know that the Bush and Bin Laden families have had close relations for OVER 20 YEARS! This is known fact, you can follow the money trail - the money trail never lies. Osama bin Laden: "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. (Al edit: NO DUH!) The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States." http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html 4. Concerning the bombs going off at the base of towers, we can forget about William Rodriguez. Do you have a response for all of these people? http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2005/10/below-belt.html Firefighter said "this, huge incredible force of wind and debris actually came UP the stairs, knocked my helmet off, knocked me to the ground" Firefighter said "I was distracted by a large explosion from the south tower and it seemed like fire was shooting out a couple of hundred feet in each direction, then all of a sudden the top of the tower started coming down in a pancake . . . It appeared somewhere below [the area where the plane had hit]. Maybe twenty floors below the impact area of the plane" BBC reporter stated "Then, an hour later, we had that big explosion, from much much lower [well below the plane impact]. I don't know what on earth caused that". 5. Lastly, if you take what Fox news says for fact you are looking at the world through a thin, thin tube my friend. Not to mention a very crooked tube, at that.
What about? What about? What about? So, are you conceding the previous points and moving on? That's the typical tactic. Just move the target. That's normally how these things proceed. Truther puts forth some "facts" Is promptly debunked. Truther puts forth new "facts" - doesn't bother defending the previous ones Is promptly debunked. Rinse and Repeat. You finished off with the decisive "fox news" defense. Which is wonderful because it shows creativity as no one (ever!) uses "fox news" as a shield.
I'm sure that no one is surprised to learn that this link: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=2623 recopies this site: http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html#_ftn3 and guess who appears on the home page? http://www.teamliberty.net/index.html I know. You were shocked.
I fear you are wasting your time aletheides. 9/11 happened exactly like Bush, the US Administration and media outlets like FOCKS News say it did. If you choose to question anything about it you are a conspiracy theorist. Don't try to upset the DP P&R sheeple, they don't like that.
I´m not really following - are we going to continue or are you just going to hit the floor and proceed to become a whinebag? I was just having fun and here you are calling foul play on nothing lol.
That's what I was asking you. You brought up 3 points earlier. All 3 have been shown to be incorrect. Instead of defending your original points; you bring up 5 more points. Do you really expect us to go thru and disprove these 5 so you can bring up another 5? That's my point. I thought I made it clear enough for you. Do you need more assistance here? I'm sorry. If you, yourself believe that your 9/11 conspiracy views are a joke; I'll let you continue unhindered.
Apparently you didnt read my post, I did in fact mention the angled corners, the explosions, GTechs bin laden confession bit - but you got me, I did in fact bring up 1 new thing (not 5).. Shame on me for keeping the discussion going in a forum.
Its this silly blind patriotism that will run our poor country into the ground. My children and their childrens children will be lucky if they can step outside their door without getting taxed and/or tracked. What everyone in America needs to do is start questioning authority and start thinking for themselves.
How did they come up with the "culprits" so quickly? How did they find the terrorist's cars at the airports so quickly? When was it decided to cancel building a pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan? Why did none of the 19 hijackers appeared on the passenger lists? Why would the hijackers use credit cards and allow drivers licenses with photos to be zeroxed? How did the hijackers change the flight plan without law enforcement or the military try to stop them? How could the FBI distinguish between "regular" Muslims and hijacker Muslims on those flights? Why was there not one "innocent" Muslim on board any of these flights? Did someone go through the passenger lists looking for Muslim names and label them as hijackers? MOHAMMED ATTA Why did Atta leave his bag at the airport and the employees didn't put it on board? Who found his bag? How can we be sure it it was his bag? How were all hijackers identified just 2 days after the attack? I have pasted few random questions from the list of 156 question I found in a site.
We covered this earlier. How gullible people are lazy, and just copy/paste other people's "questions" that have no factual basis. In fact, if you had followed along, aletheides fell right into this trap. Not being intelligent enough on his own, he copied/pasted someone elses information. It was quickly debunked. As Lorien pointed out, he simply copied new material and pasted it, without addressing the previous issues that were debunked. It's lazy. It takes no effort at all. It puts all the work on someone else. But this is representative of the average "troofer." They don't care about the facts and they are too lazy to put forth their own points. They simply copy/paste unsubstantiated questions that they accept for "troof" without question, and pretend they are doing something to help the "cause." Just look at AGS! Just like we predicted, he ran and hid. He knows the truth, he knows the reality. He just doesn't care. In summary, don't be lazy. Don't rush off to the newest *made for profit* "troofer" site like a gullible pound puppy, copy off unsubstantiated questions, then present them as your "source." Do your homework. Question those who pretend to be asking questions (in reality, they are making unsubstantiated claims...as if the carefully constructed questions they pose are in fact true). At what point, do those that let these nuts do their thinking for them, question those who are suckering money out of their pockets and making silly claims that others can quickly debunk? aletheides said: In short, he copied/pasted someone elses made up claims about 9/11 and was quickly shot down. aletheides, at what point to you start questioning the false questions and accusations that people like alex jones and john conners sucker young angry gullible white males with? Four were shot down, proving they were not factually correct (troof), yet you seem to take no issue with that. Do you believe people like alex jones and john conners can just make up lies and if so, how many lies will others clearly debunk, before you start saying "hmmm, these SOBs are trying to con me? Nothing they say is true." For AGS, apparently it's greater than two years. How about you?
Cut the pantomime GTech, I already explained my thoughts in this thread ages ago: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=3869710&postcount=44 Don't tell me you missed it.
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Get your facts straight - the debate continues here on the same points... Dont be so quick to toot your own victory horn, the debate should contine and the off-topic bs should stop. I will expand on one of the same points brought up earlier, the angled cut corners. You or one of your minions gave me this link and called it debunked. Here is a funny paragraph, right from the link you gave: "That cut could have been done at any time during the clean up and recovery. Lets not forget the building went down some 6 stories underground. The firemen were recovering bodies mainly from the core and some were in the lobby when it happened. So it's not unreasonable to expect firemen there well after the event. Long enough for an ironworker to cut the column." ...I call that an assumption - assuming iron workers are going around cutting just-to-tall columns at an angle (for what reason I wouldnt be able to guess).. Why on earth would an iron worker cut a column at an angle to make it shorter anyways? It is only more metal to cut.