No problem, that's what I figured you would say, despite quoting the source and highlighting some of the important points that contradict such. On another note, I see no one is man enough to step up and take on a challenge. I knew AGS wouldn't, he's not interested in facts and anything requiring more than two sentences without the use of Bush is far too complex for him.
GTech what kind of information do you have that shows that 9/11 is indeed the result of a terrorist attack?
Pretty much everything. I believe I linked to a thread where a previous challenge was issued and the gullible were thoroughly discredited. The real question should be, what kind of information do you have that shows that 9/11 was not the result of a terrorist attack?
The bottom line is that we are so opposingly different on our thoughts behind who was behind 9/11 these debates can and will go on for eternity. On one side you have people that believe that 19 Muslims that couldn't even fly Cessna's all controlled by a man in a cave managed to pull it off, and on the other hand there are people like me that don't believe that. If it gives you comfort to believe your belief then stick with it GTech.
1. The hotspots. Following the World Trade Center collapses thermal hot spots with temperatures in excess of 700°C existed deep within the wreckage of the buildings. These temperatures were sustained for a long period of time. The temperature at the core of "the pile," is near 2000 degrees Fahrenheit, according to fire officials, who add that the fires are too deep for firefighters to get to. In perfect conditions the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbons such as jet fuel burning in air is 1520° F (825° C). When the World Trade Center collapsed the deeply buried fires would have been deprived of oxygen and their temperatures would have significantly decreased. Why was the temperature at the core of "the pile" nearly 500° F hotter than the maximum burning temperature of jet fuel a full seven days after the collapses? There were no infernos in either of the twin towers before they collapsed, so what caused the hot spots deep in their wreckage? Dr. Frank Gayle, Metals Expert, on the jet fuel fires which burned in the WTC buildings: "Your gut reaction would be the jet fuel is what made the fire so very intense, a lot of people figured that's what melted the steel. Indeed it didn't, the steel did not melt." [Firehouse.com] Molten steel did not exist in the WTC buildings prior to the collapses, but... Molten steel was found "three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed [from WTCs 1 & 2]," Loizeaux said. He said molten steel was also found at 7 WTC, which collapsed mysteriously in the late afternoon. Conventional fires cannot explain the above, but thermite can. Thermite is widely used in demolitions because of the intense heat it generates - perfect for bringing down construction grade steel. A thermite reaction generates extraordinarily high temperatures (>2500° C) and provides a credible explanation for the fires, hot spots and molten steel (a by-product of the thermite reaction) found in the collapsed buildings. 2. Angled cut corners at the base of the structures. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/thermiteonwtccolumns_small.jpg -- The core column shown above the firefighter was discovered after the collapse. The angled cut occurs in exactly the manner that shaped charges slice through steel beams to control the way they fall - a common practice in demolitions. Notice the hardened once liquid metal. 3. At Least 7 of the 9/11 Hijackers are Still Alive. The muscle hijackers 'picked by bin Ladin': Satam al Suqami, Wail and Waleed al Shehri (two brothers) - Both Alive, Abdul Aziz al Omari - Alive, Fayez Banihammad (from the UAE), Ahmed al Ghamdi, Hamza al Ghamdi, Mohand al Shehri - Alive, Saeed al Ghamdi - Alive, Ahmad al Haznawi, Ahmed al Nami - Alive, Majed Moqed, and Salem al Hazmi - Alive (the brother of Nawaf al Hazmi). 4. Explosions that occured before the planes hit. There is substantial evidence that explosions occurred well BELOW the areas impacted by the planes hitting the Twin Towers on 9/11. Indeed, according to some witnesses, some of these explosions occurred before the plane even hit the building: 9/11 hero - (picture here: http://www.911forthetruth.com/William's pics/album2/WilliamBush2.html) who was the last person out of the north tower, said that there was a massive explosion in the North Tower BEFORE the plane hit. "As he was talking with others, there was a very loud massive explosion which seemed to emanate from between sub-basement B2 and B3. There were twenty-two people on B2 sub-basement who also felt and heard that first explosion." http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=7762 Maintenance worker who worked in the basement of north tower witnessed an explosion in the basement at around the same time the plane hit far above http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=106368 Assistant Chief Engineer at the World Trade Center arrived on the 38th floor of the North Tower before the plane hit, got out of the elevator, and about 50 feet down the hallway, he heard a loud explosion and was lifted into the air. "I can't even tell you how far I traveled," he recalled. When he landed, people were already coming out of their offices into the hallway . . .Upon reaching the 43rd floor, "there were patches of ceiling that was just down on the floor, water pipes were broken, water was gushing like a brook or river that was just running down the corridor of the machine room." http://www.chiefengineer.org/article.cfm?seqnum1=1029 Two other eyewitnesses working in the Twin Towers witnesssed explosions in the basement at about the same time the plane hit. http://www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com/articles/article/1518131/29110.htm
You need to remember that he is also a guy that still believes that Saddam had WMD, even though everyone in the world now knows that was complete BS and was only used as a premise to get us into the absolute disaster that we are in now.
These were long debunked in this thread. You are aware there is newer conspiracy material, right? These are kinda old. Too easy. Try again.
Thats not really the answer I was looking for - you asked and I gave. Play the game with me, I know you have the time and hope you arent scared.
I've already sourced the counter. The material you copied/pasted is quite old and already debunked. See the source thread I provided.
I see you are cleverly citing sources from http://usinfo.state.gov LOL ! Come on how about some unbiased research here. I would be satisfied if you could summarize a response to each of the 4 points - and you arent allowed to cite Fox News either or the US Gov for that matter LOL. Meanwhile the government slowly but surely robs American citizens of their consititutional rights in the name of "fighting terrorism".. They love guys like you Gtech, so easy to nod your head and look the other way.. They love that kind of stuff.
The material you copied and pasted from other sites as your own has already been covered in the thread I posted. Ask AGS, he has access to alex jones secret archives and can get you more material. Isn't it kind of lazy to copy/paste other's lunacy as your own? I believe I also covered that in the thread. How lazy people put forth no effort, and just copy/paste other's material and say "here, debunk this." Then when it's debunked, they move on to something new. When that is debunked, on to something else. Confirming all the way, that facts do not matter. Read the thread where all your current copy/paste is already debunked. Let me know if facts matter and when they don't, bring something fresh.
Can you at least be a good sport and counter number 2 and number 4? You asked and I provided, now you are going to do this? Come on - no fun.
Forget about 9/11. The government is about to pull of something big. Keep your eyes open for the next few months or so.
Very true. With opinion about the Iraq disaster at an all time low something large has got to happen to keep the sheeple scared. As I said in a post a few months ago it is not a matter of if, but when.
Yes because they know what works. Incident and then public reaction - the best way to get your bs laws that edit the consititution passed through.
Covered here: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=746256&postcount=23 In more recent events: Fuel based fire melts steel http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_5783312 I find no credible evidence this is anything more than an opinion. It's a baseless claim. This was claim was made in the thread here: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=773498&postcount=260 It was addressed here: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=774045&postcount=266 I wonder why he couldn't recall? There are only five mentions of this phrase he *supposedly* said, if in fact *he* actually has a name. There is simply no credible evidence this person exists, let alone said such.