SEO Value of .COM vs. .INFO Domain Name

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Paintball Guns, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. MoneyMoose

    MoneyMoose Peon

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    #21
    RULE was spreading misinformation. He was basing his ideas off of a false assumption. The points he made were due to this misconception. This is far from good.
     
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  2. Vic_mackey

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    #22
    I dont agree. I think he is right when he says search engines favour some tld's over others. My own testing backs this up, and plenty other people have mentioned similar. Either way, if you agree or not its childish to attack his spelling. If you don't agree with his point of view fine, then post why, in an adult manner.
     
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  3. MoneyMoose

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  4. Vic_mackey

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    #24
    If you're going to believe everything googles rentamouth says you might as well give in now :D

    Its in google interests to keep seo's guessing, I would not trust anything that comes out of a google employees mouth.
     
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  5. MoneyMoose

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    #25
    Perhaps.

    I must say I've been quite close-minded about this. You could be right.
     
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  6. scarfacedude

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    #26
    I have .info and so far I get a lot of traffic from that domain :D
     
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  7. mtime88

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    #27
    The "keyword.com" would be better for SEO if your a good SEO or not. If 2 sites have the same exact backlinks and content... guess what "keyword.com" will rank higher.
     
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  8. sultanofseo

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    #28
    thats true for good SEO. but think about this. why do we build backlinks with anchor texts? because having the keyword in the link helps us rank our site higher. its even more important for keyword in the domains. yes, you can get your site ranked without having the keyword in the domain, but having it will make it lot easier and will surely give you the edge
     
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  9. Dan Schulz

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    #29
    It's actually in Google's best interest to give people the most accurate and relevant search results possible, not to keep people in the SEO industry guessing.

    If you think Google and their "rentamouth" suck so much, then proudly proclaim it in your signature and tell people to use another search engine instead, like MSN/Live/"Whatever We're Going to Rebrand Ourselves As This Week Because We Suck So Much We Could Never Build A Good Search Engine Even if We Bought Yahoo!" like some people I know do.
     
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  10. Sem-Advance

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    #30
    First thing you need to ask is what the visitors prefer and most would be .com

    Next

    keyword.info is not going to rank well on Google just because the keyword is in the URL....

    While that may work for some domains and some keywords it won't be enough for high competition terms.

    Dan I have caught Matt Cutts in a few blatent lies and called him out on it on his blog and oddly enough he never responded.

    Plus if you like I will show you how one of Googles $5,000,000.00 Adwords Clients and a rival search engine is allowed to spam Googles Organic SERPs to the tune of probably $20,000,000.00 per month......

    I am sure Google is aware of this yet due to the fact that the rival search engine spends 50mil per year it is overlooked.

    And in all honesty Google will never allow SEOs to understand their algorithm. (Hell 99% don't now lol)

    As soon as Google explains how spikes and aberrations are used within the Algorithm to assess artificial link building, I'll believe they are the "Do No Evil" company they claim.....

    Till such time........:rolleyes:
     
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  11. Vic_mackey

    Vic_mackey Banned

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    #31
    I agree that its in google's best interest to give people the most relevant search results possible, but I believe this is in part achieved by keeping seo's guessing. I don't think its in googles interest to allow anyone optimising for seo know the full info on how those results are calculated. After all if Matt Cutts was proven to be lying in this instance, it wouldn't be the first time.

    I'm happy with google, I use them for my own personal searching. It suits me if everyone else uses google too, as I prefer having one engine to optimize for.

    Okay you've piqued my curiousity with this, I wouldn't mind seeing it.
     
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  12. Dan Schulz

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    #32
    The best question to ask is really "What kind of Web site do I have? Is it commercial, or informational in nature?" (Of course, this is not always possible.)

    True. But that's the case regardless of the top-level domain, which brings me to your next point.

    Which is why I tend to ignore keyword-based domain names. I'm not a Joe Sixpack type, so it's obvious I can tell the difference between a keyword based and a brand-based domain name. I'm going to have to conduct some research and testing to determine if "Joe Sixpack" and "Grandma Ethel" can tell the difference as well (and whether they'd consider going to those sites if they could).

    Prove it.

    See above.

    You mean Yahoo's mixing of organic and paid listings?

    Not the algorithm itself (it's a trade secret), but they do tell people who are willing to listen how it works without revealing too many details. In other words, read the HTML specification, make your Web sites for users, and learn how to properly build a Web site.

    That's easy. They tend to look at trends - if they see a lot of links pointing back from authority sites in a short period of time, they'll ignore it. If they see a lot of links from crappy sites in a short period of time and the rate of link building does not remain somewhat consistent, then they'll probably flag it for a manual review.

    It's called common sense.

    I'm waiting. :D

    (Oh, and Vic, belief and fact are two different things - I do my best to keep them separate when talking about SEO, Web design, devleopment, and other such "topical" issues.)
     
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  13. freelistfool

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    #33
    There is no difference in SEO benefit between .com and .info. The benefit from having your keywords in the domain come from people giving you back links. They often use your domain name as the anchor text. The downside to using a .info is if you are trying to brand your site. If you are, your efforts will benefit the .com instead of your own because once you get a recognizable brand people will type somethingpaintaball.com instead of .info.
     
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  14. Sem-Advance

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    #34
    I wrote most of what I wrote to others who are not nearly as good at SEO as you and I Dan.

    I don't need to prove that I caught Matt Cutts lying...I know what happened and in life about the only thing that matters is what one knows is fact.

    But if you care to research go visit his posts about the Big Daddy Hardware upgrade from 1.,5 or 2 years ago. Your sure to find my post where I called him a liar and posted my old phone number for him to call.

    As for the rival search engine spamming Google it is important to remember Yahoo and MSN are both portals with a search feature so it would not be either of them and they would not have a need to spam Googles organic SERP.

    I will PMB you the details. I ask you keep it to yourself as I have never published my findings. After speaking with Rand and a few others in Search I found it best not to stir the pot.....
     
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  15. RULE

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    #35
    HEY buddy,


    I see there is lot of confusion around and i want to clear it right now in DP

    When u optimize ur site for SEO u need to see all aspects starting from Domains, dedicated server, onpage - off page optimization and so on. Regarding .com has an added advantage and this is not what m saying, most of the top well know US SEO experts have said that .com have an edge over .info

    The question is why we do SEO? We do it for traffic or just for rank?
    I m not saying that u should not use .info but if u are in competition and say u want to be branded in the market then u really need to look for .com

    .info can be used for blogs and personal uses but not in competition do give it a try if u want to see it, though google doesn't sees any difference in both. ex: Lets say if the strategy and optimization is same for .com and .info who is gona come on top ? answer is .com

    Look friends : There is one thing what really needs to look in for and that is called authority domains, authority links. So that's really important, having authority domain links like .com would definitely give ur site a boost when it comes to advance link building.


    As per my blog i really don't get time and yeah i do eat many of the words so pardon me for that,,,,,,,,,,, :)
    But friends do make it clear its all ur decisions

    Thanx Vic_mackey , Dan Schulz and Moose (Gr blog man) for ur suggestions
     
    RULE, Oct 26, 2008 IP
  16. mimran

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    #36
    i think you should go for .info domain
     
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  17. Red_Virus

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    #37
    They say that there is no difference, But I think .com domains rank better than .info domains (Google has a bias that .info domains are generally used for spamming and blackhat).
     
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